Re: [Last-Call] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-bess-datacenter-gateway-10

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Dear Authors,

Attached is a txt version -gsm update of version 10 that contains a first cut at what I think would be appropriate  RFC 2119 SHOULD / MUST language for a specification.  I also made some editorial updates to make
the specification clear to the reader.  In this thread and on the call we had we talked about changing the ingress & egress domain to ingress & egress site which I made that change as well.  Using the word "domain" really makes it confusing as 
to which domain is being referred  so the change to "site" really helps readability.  

Few more questions & thoughts  related to the draft for the authors to help in finalizing the draft for publication below:

GW failover: (John Scudder)
GW's will need a local iBGP session for failover.  In the scenario where one GW is disconnected from the backbone the draft clearly states that the advertisement of the GW is withdrawn, when the active set of GWs changes
each externally advertised route will be re-advertised with the new tunnel encapsulation attribute union which reflects the current set of active GWs.  
In the case of inconsistent routing within the site GW1 can reach GW2, GW1 cannot reach S2. Low probability but entirely possible.  Maybe a note in the draft on this scenario may make things worse with blackhole to GW2.

Section 5 - RFC 9012 Tunnel encapsulation attribute BGP Prefix-sid limitations (Alvaro Retana)
SR end to end or at a minimum within an SR domain may not be general use case and maybe limited due to BGP prefix sid sub-tlv can only be used for IPv4/IPv6 labeled unicast AFI/SAFI 1/4 2/4.  
We may want to comment in section 5 that use of SR maybe limited and not a general use case.  Also does this limitation impact the use of SRv6?

Additional thoughts for the authors.

Does the draft require SR in the backbone or can RSVP-TE be used?

If RSVP-TE can be used, maybe a different name for the identifier should be used and not SR domain identifier. 

Section 3 - Is the SR domain identifier value the RT that is attached to the GW auto discovery route?

RFC 4360 is mentioned in section 3 as normative reference, however RFC 5668 4 byte extended community should also be mentioned as normative.

We may want to mention this bleed over of GW routes due to mis-configuration in section 8 - security considerations 

   Note that if a GW is (mis)configured with a different SR domain

   identifier from the other GWs to the same domain then it will not be

   auto-discovered by the other GWs (and will not auto-discover the

   other GWs).  This would result in a GW for another site

   receiving only the Tunnel Encapsulation attribute included in the BGP

   best route; i.e., the Tunnel Encapsulation attribute of the

   (mis)configured GW or that of the other GWs.

As there may be significant propagation delays with convergence for re-advertisement as the set of active GWs change in cases where the number of AS's is very large over the public internet, maybe that should be mentioned.  

Kind Regards

Gyan



On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 4:49 PM John E Drake <jdrake@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Excellent, thanks so much for your help on this.

Yours Irrespectively,

John


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> Subject: Re: [Last-Call] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-bess-datacenter-
> gateway-10
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> Hi Lars’s  & DC Gateway authors
>
> I will be responding back today to the Gen-Art original email I sent with final
> comments and hope the final comments will help improve the document.
>
>     I will also address the comments from John Scudder related to GW failover as
> well as Alvaro’s comments related to tunnel encapsulation attribute BGP prefix
> sid Sub-TLV limitations.  Also will add new text recommendations related to RFC
> 2119 MUST / SHOULD language to help improve the document.
>
>
> Thank you
>
> Gyan
> On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 3:31 AM Lars Eggert <lars@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > Gyan, thank you for your review and thank you all for the following
> > discussion. I have entered a No Objection ballot for this document
> > based on the current status of the discussion.
> >
> > Lars
> >
> >
> > > On 2021-4-29, at 8:46, Gyan Mishra via Datatracker
> > > <noreply@xxxxxxxx>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Reviewer: Gyan Mishra
> > > Review result: Not Ready
> > >
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> > > Document: draft-ietf-bess-datacenter-gateway-??
> > > Reviewer: Gyan Mishra
> > > Review Date: 2021-04-28
> > > IETF LC End Date: 2021-04-29
> > > IESG Telechat date: Not scheduled for a telechat
> > >
> > > Summary:
> > >   This document defines a mechanism using the BGP Tunnel Encapsulation
> > >   attribute to allow each gateway router to advertise the routes to the
> > >   prefixes in the Segment Routing domains to which it provides access,
> > >   and also to advertise on behalf of each other gateway to the same
> > >   Segment Routing domain.
> > >
> > > This draft needs to provide some more clarity as far as the use case
> > > and
> > where
> > > this would as well as how it would be used and implemented.  From
> > reading the
> > > specification it appears there are some technical gaps that exist.
> > > There
> > are
> > > some major issues with this draft. I don’t think this draft is ready yet.
> > >
> > > Major issues:
> > >
> > > Abstract comments:
> > > It is mentioned that the use of Segment Routing within the Data Center.
> > Is
> > > that a requirement for this specification to work as this is
> > > mentioned throughout the draft?  Technically I would think the
> > > concept of the
> > discovery
> > > of the gateways is feasible without the requirement of SR within the
> > > Data Center.
> > >
> > > The concept of load balancing is a bigger issue brought up in this
> > > draft
> > as the
> > > problem statement and what this draft is trying to solve which I
> > > will
> > address
> > > in the introduction comments.
> > >
> > > Introduction comments:
> > > In the introduction the use case is expanded much further to any
> > functional
> > > edge AS verbiage below.
> > >
> > > OLD
> > >
> > >   “SR may also be operated in other domains, such as access networks.
> > >   Those domains also need to be connected across backbone networks
> > >   through gateways.  For illustrative purposes, consider the Ingress
> > >   and Egress SR Domains shown in Figure 1 as separate ASes.  The
> > >   various ASes that provide connectivity between the Ingress and Egress
> > >   Domains could each be constructed differently and use different
> > >   technologies such as IP, MPLS with global table routing native BGP to
> > >   the edge, MPLS IP VPN, SR-MPLS IP VPN, or SRv6 IP VPN”
> > >
> > > This paragraph expands the use case to any ingress or egress stub
> > > domain
> > Data
> > > Center, Access or any.  If that is the case should the draft name
> > > change
> > to
> > > maybe a “stub edge domain services discovery”.  As this draft can be
> > used for
> > > any I would not preclude any use case and make the GW discovery open
> > > to
> > be used
> > > for any service GW edge function and change the draft name to
> > > something
> > more
> > > appropriate.
> > >
> > > This paragraph also states for illustrative purposes which is fine
> > > but
> > then it
> > > expands the overlay/underlay use cases. I believe this use case can
> > > only
> > be
> > > used for any technology that has an overlay/underlay which would
> > preclude any
> > > use case with just an underlay global table routing such as what is
> > mentioned
> > > “IP, MPLS with global table routing native BGP to the edge.  The IP
> > > or
> > global
> > > table routing would be an issue as this specification requires
> > > setting a
> > RT and
> > > an export/import RT policy for the discover of routes advertised by
> > > the
> > GWs.
> > > As I don’t think this solution from what I can tell would work
> > technically for
> > > global table routing I will update the above paragraph to preclude
> > global table
> > > routing.  We can add back in we can figure that out but I don’t
> > > think any public or private operator would change from global table
> > > carrying all
> > BGP
> > > prefixes in the underlay now drastic change to VPN overlay pushing
> > > all
> > the
> > > any-any prefixes into the overlay as that would be a prerequisite to
> > > be
> > able to
> > > use this draft.
> > >
> > >> From this point forward I am going to assume we are using VPN
> > >> overlay
> > > technology such as SR or MPLS.
> > >
> > > NEW
> > >
> > >   “SR may also be operated in other domains, such as access networks.
> > >   Those domains also need to be connected across backbone networks
> > >   through gateways.  For illustrative purposes, consider the Ingress
> > >   and Egress SR Domains shown in Figure 1 as separate ASes.  The
> > >   various ASs that provide connectivity between the Ingress and Egress
> > >   Domains could be two as shown in Figure-1 or could be many more as
> > exists
> > >   with the public internet use case, and each may be constructed
> > differently
> > >   and use different technologies such as MPLS IP VPN, SR-MPLS IP
> > > VPN, or
> > SRv6
> > >   IP VPN” with a “BGP Free” Core.
> > >
> > > This may work without “BGP Free” core but I think to simplify the
> > > design complexity I think constraining to “BGP Free” core transport layer.
> > SR-TE path
> > > steering as well gets much more complicated if all P routers are
> > > running
> > BGP as
> > > well. I think in this example we can even explicitly say this
> > > example
> > shows the
> > > public internet as that would be one of the primary use cases.
> > >
> > > This paragraph is confusing to the reader
> > >
> > > As a precursor to this paragraph I think it maybe a good idea to
> > > state
> > that we
> > > are talking global table IP only routing or VPN overlay technology
> > > with
> > SR/MPLS
> > > underlay transport.  That will make this section much easier to
> > understand.
> > >
> > > Figure 1 drawing you should give a AS number to both the ingress
> > > domain
> > and
> > > egress domain so the reader does not have to make assumptions if it
> > > iBGP
> > or
> > > eBGP connected to the egress or ingress domain and state eBGP in the
> > > text below.  Lets also call the intermediate ASNs in the middle as
> > > depicted
> > in the
> > > diagram could be 2 as shown illustratively but could be many
> > > operator
> > domains
> > > such as in the case of traversing the public internet.   In the drawing
> > I would
> > > replace ASBR for PE as per this solution as I am stating it has to
> > > be a
> > VPN
> > > overlay paradigm and not global routing.  Also in the VPN overlay
> > scenario when
> > > you are doing any type of inter-as peering the inter-AS peering is
> > > almost always between PE’s and not a separate dedicated device
> > > serving a special “ASBR-ASBR” function as the PE is acting as the
> > > border node providing the “ASBR” type function.  So in the re-write
> > > I am assuming the drawing has
> > been
> > > updated changing ASBR to  PE.  Lets give each node a number so that
> > > we
> > can be
> > > clear in the text exactly what node we are referring to.  In the
> > > drawing
> > please
> > > update that GW1 peers to PE1 and GW2 peers to PE2 and GW3 peers to PE3.
> > GW3
> > > also peers to GW4 and GW2 peers  to GW5 which GW4 and GW5 are part
> > > of
> > AS3.  In
> > > the AS1-AS2 peering  top peer would be PE6 peers to PE8 and bottom
> > > peer
> > PE7
> > > peers to PE9.  So PE6 and PE7 are in AS1 and PE8 and PE9 are in AS2.
> > > I
> > made
> > > the bottom to ASBRs in AS3 for the selective deterministic load
> > balancing now
> > > calling them GW4 and GW5 used later in the problem statement.
> > >
> > > One major problem with this problem statement description is that it
> > > is incorrect as far as GW load balancing that it does not work today
> > > in the topology given in Figure-1.  The function of edge GW load
> > > balancing is
> > based on
> > > the iBGP path tie breaker lowest common denominator in the BGP path
> > selection
> > > which is lowest IGP underlay metric and as long as the metric is
> > > equal
> > and you
> > > have iBGP multipath enabled  you now can load balance to egress PE1
> > > and
> > PE2
> > > endpoints. So in this case flows coming from AS1 into AS2 hit a P
> > intermediate
> > > router which has iBGP multipath enabled and has lets say equal cost
> > > for
> > route
> > > to the next hop attribute assuming next-hop-self is set so the cost
> > > to
> > > loopback0 on PE1 and cost to loopback0 on PE2 is lets say 10, so now
> > > you
> > have a
> > > BGP multipath.  What is required though is the RD has to be unique
> > > in a
> > “BGP
> > > Free” core RR environment where all PE’s route-reflector-clients
> > > peer to
> > the RR
> > > and for all the paths that are advertised to the RR to be reflected
> > > to
> > all the
> > > egress PE edges the RD must be unique for the RR to reflect all paths.
> > BGP
> > > add-paths is only used if you have Primary and Backup routing setup
> > > where
> > > PE1-GW1 has a 0x prepend and PE2-GW2 has 1x prepend so now with BGP
> > add-paths
> > > along with BGP PIC Edge you now have a edge pre-programmed backup
> path.
> > So the
> > > add-paths is not necessarily something that helps for load balancing
> > > and
> > is in
> > > fact orthogonal to load balancing as it for Primary / Backup routing
> > > and
> > not
> > > Active/Active load balancing routing where load balancing with VPN
> > overlay is
> > > simply achieved with unique RD per PE and iBGP multipath and equal
> > > cost
> > paths
> > > to the underlay recursive IGP learned next-hop-attribute in this
> > > case
> > the PE
> > > loopback 0 per the next hop rewrite via “next-hop-sellf” done on the
> > PE-RR
> > > peering in a standard VPN overlay topology.   As far as load balancing
> > being
> > > accomplished in the underlay what I have stated is independent of
> > > SR-TE
> > however
> > > with SR-TE candidate path the load balancing ECMP spray to egress PE
> > egress GW
> > > AS can also happen as well with prefix-sid.
> > >
> > > OLD
> > >   Suppose that there are two gateways, GW1 and GW2 as shown in
> > >   Figure 1, for a given egress SR domain and that they each advertise a
> > >   route to prefix X which is located within the egress SR domain with
> > >   each setting itself as next hop.  One might think that the GWs for X
> > >   could be inferred from the routes' next hop fields, but typically it
> > >   is not the case that both routes get distributed across the backbone:
> > >   rather only the best route, as selected by BGP, is distributed.  This
> > >   precludes load balancing flows across both GWs.
> > >
> > > I am rewriting the text in the NEW as there is some discrepancy in
> > > the
> > routes
> > > being distributed across the backbone and what gets distributed.  So
> > > I am completely re-writing to make it more clear what we are trying
> > > to state
> > here as
> > > the text appears technically to be incorrect.  To help state the
> > > flow
> > will use
> > > the BGP route flow to help depict the routing and try to get to the
> > problem
> > > statement we are trying to portray.
> > >
> > > NEW
> > >
> > >   Suppose that there are two gateways, GW1 and GW2 as shown in
> > >   Figure 1, for a given egress SR domain and each gateway advertises
> > > via
> > EBGP
> > >   a VPN prefix X to AS2 core domain via EBGP with underlay next hop
> > > set
> > to GW1
> > >   or GW2. In this case we are Active / Active load balancing with
> > > PE1
> > and PE2
> > >   receives the VPN prefix and advertised the VPN prefix X into the
> > domain with
> > >   next-hop-self set on the PE-RR peering to the PE’s loopback0.  The
> > > P
> > routers
> > >   within the domain have ECMP path with IGP metric tie to the egress
> > > PE1
> > and
> > >   egress PE2 for VPN Prefix X learned from GW1 and GW2. SR-TE path
> > > can
> > now be
> > >   stitched from GW3 to PE3 SR-TE Segment-1 to PE3 to PE6 and PE7
> > Segment-2 to
> > >   PE8 and PE9 to Egress Domain via PE1 and PE2 to GW1 and GW2.  In
> > > this
> > case
> > >   however we don’t want the traffic to be steered via SR-TE Load
> > balanced via
> > >   ingress GW3 and want to take GW3 out of rotation and load balance
> > traffic to
> > >   GW4 and GW5 instead.
> > >
> > > **Text above provides the updated selective deterministic gateway
> > steering
> > > described below to achieve the goal.  I think that may have been the
> > intent of
> > > the authors and I am just making it more clear**
> > >
> > > As for problem statement as GW load balancing can occur in the
> > > underlay
> > as
> > > stated easily that is not the problem.
> > >
> > > In my mind I am thinking the problem statement that we want to
> > > describe
> > in both
> > > the Abstract and Introduction is not vanilla simple gateway load
> > balancing but
> > > rather a predictable deterministic method of selecting gateways to
> > > be
> > used that
> > > is each VPN prefix now has a descriptor attached -  tunnel
> > > encapsulation attribute which contains multiple TLVs one or more for
> > > each “selected
> > gateway”
> > > with each tunnel TLV contains an egress tunnel endpoint sub-tlv that
> > identifies
> > > the gateway for the tunnel.  Maybe we can have in the sub-tlv a
> > > priority
> > field
> > > for pecking order preference of which GWs are pushed up into the GW hash
> > > selected for the SR-ERO path to be stitched end to end.   So lets say
> > you had
> > > 10 GWs and you break them up into 2 tiers or multi tiers and have
> > > maybe
> > gateway
> > > 1-5 are primary and 6-10 are backup and that could be do to various
> > reasons so
> > > you can basically pick and choose based on priority which GW that
> > > gets
> > added to
> > > the GW hash.
> > >
> > > I have some feedback and comments on the solution and how best to
> > > write
> > the
> > > verbiage to make it more clear to the reader.
> > >
> > > I think in the solution as far s the RT to attach for the GW auto
> > discovery.
> > > So with this new RT we are essentially creating a new VPN RIB that
> > > has
> > prefixes
> > > from all the selected gateways that are discovered from the tunnel
> > > encapsulation attribute TLV.
> > >
> > > In the text here what is really confusing is if the tunnel
> > > encapsulation attribute is being attached to the underlay recursive route to
> next hop
> > > attribute or the VPN overlay prefix.   So the reason I am thinking it is
> > being
> > > attached to the VPN overlay prefix and not the underlay next hop
> > attribute is
> > > how would you now create another transport RIB and if you are
> > > creating a
> > new
> > > transport RIB there is already a draft defined by Kaliraj
> > > Vairavakkalai
> > or
> > > BGP-LU SAFI 4 labeled unicast that exits today to advertise next
> > > hops
> > between
> > > domains for an end to end LSP load balanced path.
> > >
> > >
> > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-kaliraj-
> > idr-bgp-classful-transport-planes-07__;!!NEt6yMaO-gk!RIcJvmiBoFFiuLezP
> > bzRuUXybG_QHD8PujD7pROBUPot5dc9nX-rMTiD7W4i_nA$
> > >
> > > IANA code point below
> > > 76      Classful-Transport SAFI
> > > [draft-kaliraj-idr-bgp-classful-transport-planes-00]
> > >
> > > Also in line with CT another option is BGP-LU SAFI 4 to import the
> > loopbacks
> > > between domains which is the next hop attribute to be advertised
> > > into
> > the core
> > > end to end LSP.  So the BGP-LU SAFI  RIB could be used for the next
> > > GW
> > next hop
> > > advertisement between domains so that there is visibility of all the
> > egress PE
> > > loopback0 between domains.   So you can either stitch the LSP segmented
> > LSP
> > > like inter-as option-b SR-TE stitched and use nex-hop self PE-RR
> > > next-hop rewrite on each of the PEs within the internet domain or
> > > you could
> > import all
> > > the PE loopback from all ingress and egress domains into the
> > > internet
> > domain
> > > similar to inter-as opt-c create end to end LSP instantiate an end
> > > to
> > end SR-TE
> > > path.
> > >
> > > Maybe you could attach the RT tunnel encapsulation attribute tunnel
> > > tlv endpoint tlv to the VPN overlay prefix.  Not sure how that would
> > > be
> > beneficial
> > > the underlay steers the VPN overlay.
> > >
> > > So maybe you could couple the VPN overlay new GW RIB RT to the
> > > transport Underlay CT CLAS RIB or BGP-LU RIB coupling  may have some
> > > benefit but
> > that
> > > would have to be investigated but I think is out of scope of the
> > > goals
> > of this
> > > draft.
> > >
> > > I think we first have to figure out the goal and purpose of this
> > > draft
> > by the
> > > authors and how the GW discovery should work in light of the CT
> > > class CT
> > RIB
> > > AFI/SAFI codepoint draft that exists today as well as the BGP-LU
> > > option
> > for
> > > next hop advertisement within the internet domain.
> > >
> > > Section 3 comments
> > >
> > >      “Each GW is configured with an identifier for the SR domain.  That
> > >      identifier is common across all GWs to the domain (i.e., the same
> > >      identifier is used by all GWs to the same SR domain), and unique
> > >      across all SR domains that are connected (i.e., across all GWs to
> > >      all SR domains that are interconnected).
> > >
> > > **No issues with the above**
> > >
> > >      A route target ([RFC4360]) is attached to each GW's auto-discovery
> > >      route and has its value set to the SR domain identifier.
> > >
> > > **So here if the RT is attached to the GW auto-discovery route we
> > > need
> > to state
> > > is that the underlay route and that the PE does a next-hop-self
> > > rewrite
> > of the
> > > eBGP link to the BGP egress domain next hop to the loopback0 so the
> > > GW
> > next hop
> > > that we are tracking of all the ingress and egress PE domains is the
> > egress and
> > > ingress PE loopback0.**
> > >
> > >      Each GW constructs an import filtering rule to import any route
> > >      that carries a route target with the same SR domain identifier
> > >      that the GW itself uses.  This means that only these GWs will
> > >      import those routes, and that all GWs to the same SR domain will
> > >      import each other's routes and will learn (auto-discover) the
> > >      current set of active GWs for the SR domain.”
> > >
> > > **So if this is the case and we are tracking the underlay RIB and
> > > attach
> > a
> > > route target to all the ingress PE & P next hops which is loopback0
> > > =
> > this is
> > > literally identical to BGP-LU importing all the loopbacks between
> > domains or
> > > using CT class** There is no need for this feature to use the tunnel
> > > encapsulation attribute.  I am not following why you would not use
> > BGP-LU or CT
> > > clas RIB.**
> > >
> > >   “To avoid the side effect of applying the Tunnel Encapsulation
> > >   attribute to any packet that is addressed to the GW itself, the GW
> > >   SHOULD use a different loopback address for packets intended for it.”
> > >
> > > **I don’t understand this statement as the next hop is the ingress
> > > and
> > egress
> > > PE loopback0 that is the next hop being tracked for the gateway load
> > balancing.
> > > The GW device subnet between the GW and PE is not advertised into
> > > the
> > internet
> > > domain as we do next-hop-self on the PE PE-RR iBGP peering and so
> > > the GW
> > to PE
> > > subnet is not advertised.**   Looking at it a second time I think we are
> > > thinking here BGP-LU inter-as opt c style import of loops between
> > domains and
> > > so instead of importing the loop0 which carries all packets on the
> > > GW
> > device
> > > use a different loopback GW1 so it does not carry the FEC of all
> > > BAU
> > packets
> > > similar concept utilized in RSVP-TE to VPN mapping "per-vrf TE"
> > > concept


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M 301 502-1347




BESS Working Group                                             A. Farrel
Internet-Draft                                        Old Dog Consulting
Intended status: Standards Track                                J. Drake
Expires: October 17, 2021                                       E. Rosen
                                                        Juniper Networks
                                                                K. Patel
                                                            Arrcus, Inc.
                                                                L. Jalil
                                                                 Verizon
                                                          April 15, 2021


   Gateway Auto-Discovery and Route Advertisement for Segment Routing
                     Enabled Domain Interconnection
                 draft-ietf-bess-datacenter-gateway-10

Abstract

   Data centers are critical components of the infrastructure used by
   network operators to provide services to their customers.  Data
   centers are attached to the Internet or a backbone network by gateway
   routers.  One data center typically has more than one gateway for
   commercial, load balancing, and resiliency reasons.

   Segment Routing is a protocol mechanism that can be used within a
   data center, and also for steering traffic that flows between two
   data center sites.  In order that one data center site may load
   balance the traffic it sends to another data center site, it needs to
   know the complete set of gateway routers at the remote data center,
   the points of connection from those gateways to the backbone network,
   and the connectivity across the backbone network.

   Segment Routing may also be operated in other sites, such as access
   networks.  Those sites also need to be connected across backbone
   networks through gateways.

   This document defines a mechanism using the BGP Tunnel Encapsulation
   attribute to allow each gateway router to advertise the underlay transport routes for internal
   prefixes at the site to which it provides access,
   and also to advertise on behalf of each other, all the gateways within the site to the same
   Segment Routing domain.

Status of This Memo

   This Internet-Draft is submitted in full conformance with the
   provisions of BCP 78 and BCP 79.





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Table of Contents

   1.  Introduction  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .   3
   2.  Requirements Language . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .   5
   3.  SR Domain Gateway Auto-Discovery  . . . . . . . . . . . . . .   5
   4.  Relationship to BGP Link State and Egress Peer Engineering  .   7
   5.  Advertising an SR Domain Route Externally . . . . . . . . . .   7
   6.  Encapsulation . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .   7
   7.  IANA Considerations . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .   8
   8.  Security Considerations . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .   8
   9.  Manageability Considerations  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .   9
     9.1.  Relationship to Route Target Constraint . . . . . . . . .   9
   10. Acknowledgements  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .  10
   11. References  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .  10
     11.1.  Normative References . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .  10
     11.2.  Informative References . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .  11
   Authors' Addresses  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .  12







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1.  Introduction

   Data centers (DCs) are critical components of the infrastructure used
   by network operators to provide services to their customers.  DCs are
   attached to the Internet or a backbone network by gateway routers
   (GWs).  One DC typically has more than one GW for various reasons
   including commercial preferences, load balancing, or resiliency
   against connection of device failure.

   Segment Routing (SR) [RFC8402] is a protocol mechanism that can be
   used within a DC, and also for steering traffic that flows between
   two DC sites.  In order for a source (ingress) DC that uses SR to
   load balance the flows it sends to a destination (egress) DC, it
   needs to know the complete set of entry nodes (i.e., GWs) for that
   egress DC from the backbone network connecting the two DCs.  Note
   that it is assumed that the connected set of DCs and the backbone
   network connecting them are part of the same SR BGP Link State (LS)
   instance ([RFC7752] and [I-D.ietf-idr-bgpls-segment-routing-epe]) so
   that traffic engineering using SR may be used for these flows. Note that the ingress
   and egress DC sites do not need to support SR.

   SR may also be operated in other sites, such as access networks.
   Those domains also need to be connected across backbone networks
   through gateways.  For illustrative purposes, consider the Ingress
   and Egress SR Site shown in Figure 1 as separate ASes.  The
   various ASes that provide connectivity between the Ingress and Egress
   sites could each be constructed differently and use different
   technologies such as IP, MPLS with global table routing native BGP to
   the edge, MPLS IP VPN, SR-MPLS IP VPN, or SRv6 IP VPN.

   Suppose that there are two gateways, GW1 and GW2 as shown in
   Figure 1, for a given egress SR site and that they each advertise a
   route to prefix X which is located within the egress SR site with
   each setting itself as next hop.  One might think that the GWs for X
   could be inferred from the routes' next hop fields, but typically it
   is not the case that both routes get distributed across the backbone:
   rather only the best route, as selected by BGP, is distributed.  This
   precludes load balancing flows across both GWs.














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           -----------------                    ---------------------
          | Ingress         |                  | Egress     ------   |
          | SR Site         |                  | SR Site   |Prefix|  |
          |                 |                  |           |   X  |  |
          |                 |                  |            ------   |
          |       --        |                  |   ---          ---  |
          |      |GW|       |                  |  |GW1|        |GW2| |
           -------++--------                    ----+-----------+-+--
                  | \                               |          /  |
                  |  \                              |         /   |
                  |  -+-------------        --------+--------+--  |
                  | ||ASBR|     ----|      |----  |ASBR| |ASBR| | |
                  | | ----     |ASBR+------+ASBR|  ----   ----  | |
                  | |           ----|      |----                | |
                  | |   SR Domain   |      |      SR Domain     | |
                  | |           ----|      |----                | |
                  | | AS1      |ASBR+------+ASBR|           AS2 | |
                  | |           ----|      |----                | |
                  |  ---------------        --------------------  |
                --+-----------------------------------------------+--
               | |ASBR|                                       |ASBR| |
               |  ----               AS3                       ----  |
               |                                                     |
                -----------------------------------------------------


         Figure 1: Example Segment Routing Domain Interconnection

   The obvious solution to this problem is to use the BGP feature that
   allows the advertisement of multiple paths in BGP (known as Add-
   Paths) [RFC7911] to ensure that all routes to X get advertised by
   BGP.  However, even if this is done, the identity of the GWs will be
   lost as soon as the routes get distributed through an Autonomous
   System Border Router (ASBR) that will set itself to be the next hop.
   And if there are multiple Autonomous Systems (ASes) in the backbone,
   not only will the next hop change several times, but the Add-Paths
   technique will experience scaling issues.  This all means that the
   Add-Paths approach is limited to SR domains connected over a single
   AS.

   Please refer to Section 2 
   [I-D.farrel-spring-sr-domain-interconnect] for the problem statement details.

   This document defines a solution that overcomes this limitation and
   works equally well with a backbone constructed from one or more ASes
   using the Tunnel Encapsulation attribute [I-D.ietf-idr-tunnel-encaps]
   as follows:

      When a GW to a given SR site advertises a route to a prefix X
      within that SR site, it will include a Tunnel Encapsulation
      attribute that contains the union of the Tunnel Encapsulation



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      attributes advertised by each of the GWs to that SR domain,
      including itself.

   In other words, each route advertised by a GW identifies all of the
   GWs to the same SR site (see Section 3 for a discussion of how GWs
   discover each other).  I.e., the Tunnel Encapsulation attribute
   advertised by each GW contains multiple Tunnel TLVs, one or more from
   each active GW, and each Tunnel TLV MUST contain a Tunnel Egress
   Endpoint Sub-TLV that identifies the GW for that Tunnel TLV.
   Therefore, even if only one of the routes is distributed to other
   ASes, it will not matter how many times the next hop changes, as the
   Tunnel Encapsulation attribute will remain unchanged.

   To put this in the context of Figure 1, GW1 and GW2 discover each
   other as gateways for the egress SR site.  Both GW1 and GW2
   advertise themselves as having routes to prefix X.  Furthermore, GW1
   includes a Tunnel Encapsulation attribute which is the union of its
   Tunnel Encapsulation attribute and GW2's Tunnel Encapsulation
   attribute.  Similarly, GW2 includes a Tunnel Encapsulation attribute
   which is the union of its Tunnel Encapsulation attribute and GW1's
   Tunnel Encapsulation attribute.  The gateway in the ingress SR site
   can now see all possible paths to X in the egress SR site
   regardless of which route is propagated to it, and it can choose one,
   or balance traffic flows as it sees fit.

   The solution defined in this document can be seen in the broader
   context of SR domain interconnection in
   [I-D.farrel-spring-sr-domain-interconnect].  That document shows how
   other existing protocol elements may be combined with the solution
   defined in this document to provide a full system, but is not a
   necessary reference for understanding this document.

2.  Requirements Language

   The key words "MUST", "MUST NOT", "REQUIRED", "SHALL", "SHALL NOT",
   "SHOULD", "SHOULD NOT", "RECOMMENDED", "NOT RECOMMENDED", "MAY", and
   "OPTIONAL" in this document are to be interpreted as described in BCP
   14 [RFC2119] [RFC8174] when, and only when, they appear in all
   capitals, as shown here.

3.  SR Domain Gateway Auto-Discovery

   To allow a given SR domain's GWs to auto-discover each other and to
   coordinate their operations, the following procedure MUST be
   implemented:

   o  Each GW that connects to the same SR domain MUST be configured with an SR domain identifier 
      which MUST be identical across all GWs that connect to that domain.  The SR domain identifier MUST 
      be unique across all SR domains that are connected (i.e., across all GWs to all SR domains that are interconnected).



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   o  A route target ([RFC4360]) MUST be attached to each GW's auto-discovery
      route with its value set to the SR domain identifier.

   o  Each GW MUST construct an import filtering rule to import any route
      that carries a route target with the same SR domain identifier
      that the GW itself exports.  Only the set GWs with the SR domain identifier 
      will import the transport layer underlay auto-discovery route, and all GWs 
      to the same site will import each other's routes and will 
      learn (auto-discover) the current set of active GWs for the site.

   The auto-discovery route that each GW advertises consists of the
   following:

   o  An IPv4 or IPv6 NLRI containing one of the GW's loopback addresses
      (that is, with an AFI/SAFI pair that is one of 1/1, 2/1, 1/4, or
      2/4).

   o  A Tunnel Encapsulation attribute [I-D.ietf-idr-tunnel-encaps]
      containing the GW's encapsulation information encoded in one or
      more Tunnel TLVs.

   To avoid the side effect of applying the Tunnel Encapsulation
   attribute to any packet that is addressed to the GW itself, the GW
   MUST use a different loopback address for packets intended for it.

   As described in Section 1, each GW will include a Tunnel
   Encapsulation attribute with the GW encapsulation information for
   each of the sites active GWs (including itself) in every route
   advertised externally to the site.  As the current set of
   active GWs changes (due to the addition of a new GW or the failure/
   removal of an existing GW) each externally advertised route will be
   re-advertised with a new Tunnel Encapsulation attribute which
   reflects current set of active GWs.

   If a gateway becomes disconnected from the backbone network, or if
   the SR site operator decides to terminate the gateway's activity,
   it MUST withdraw the advertisements described above.  This means that
   remote gateways at other sites will stop seeing advertisements from
   this gateway.

   Note that if a GW is (mis)configured with a different SR domain
   identifier from the other GWs to the same domain then it will not be
   auto-discovered by the other GWs (and will not auto-discover the
   other GWs).  This would result in a GW for another site
   receiving only the Tunnel Encapsulation attribute included in the BGP
   best route; i.e., the Tunnel Encapsulation attribute of the
   (mis)configured GW or that of the other GWs.




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4.  Relationship to BGP Link State and Egress Peer Engineering

   When a remote GW receives a route to a prefix X it uses the Tunnel
   Egress Endpoint Sub-TLVs in the containing Tunnel Encapsulation
   attribute to identify the GWs through which X can be reached.  It
   uses this information to compute SR Traffic Engineering (SR TE) paths
   across the backbone network looking at the information advertised to
   it in SR BGP Link State (BGP-LS)
   [I-D.ietf-idr-bgp-ls-segment-routing-ext] and correlated using the SR
   domain identity.  SR Egress Peer Engineering (EPE)
   [I-D.ietf-idr-bgpls-segment-routing-epe] can be used to supplement
   the information advertised in BGP-LS.

5.  Advertising an SR Domain Route Externally

   When a packet destined for prefix X is sent on an SR TE path to a GW
   for the site containing X (that is, the packet is sent in the
   Ingress site on an SR TE path that describes the path including
   within the Egress site), it needs to carry the receiving GW's label
   for X such that this label rises to the top of the stack before the
   GW completes its processing of the packet.  To achieve this, each
   Tunnel TLV in the Tunnel Encapsulation attribute contains a Prefix
   SID sub-TLV [I-D.ietf-idr-tunnel-encaps] for X.

   Alternatively, if the GWs for a given site are configured to
   allow remote GWs to perform SR TE through that SR domain for a prefix
   X, then each GW computes an SR TE path through that site to X
   from each of the currently active GWs, and places each in an MPLS
   label stack sub-TLV [I-D.ietf-idr-tunnel-encaps] in the SR Tunnel TLV
   for that GW.

   Please refer to Section 7 of
   [I-D.farrel-spring-sr-domain-interconnect] for worked examples of how
   the label stack is constructed in this case, and how the
   advertisements would work.

6.  Encapsulation

   If the GWs for a given site are configured to allow remote GWs
   to send them a packet in that sites native encapsulation, then
   each GW will also include multiple instances of a Tunnel TLV for that
   native encapsulation in externally advertised routes: one for each GW
   and each containing a Tunnel Egress Endpoint sub-TLV with that GW's




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   address.  A remote GW may then encapsulate a packet according to the
   rules defined via the sub-TLVs included in each of the Tunnel TLVs.

7.  IANA Considerations

   IANA maintains a registry called "Border Gateway Protocol (BGP)
   Parameters" with a sub-registry called "BGP Tunnel Encapsulation
   Attribute Tunnel Types."  The registration policy for this registry
   is First-Come First-Served [RFC8126].

   IANA previously assigned the value 17 from this sub-registry for "SR
   Tunnel", referencing this document.  IANA is now requested to mark
   that assignment as deprecated.  IANA may reclaim that codepoint at
   such a time that the registry is depleted.

8.  Security Considerations

   From a protocol point of view, the mechanisms described in this
   document can leverage the security mechanisms already defined for
   BGP.  Further discussion of security considerations for BGP may be
   found in the BGP specification itself [RFC4271] and in the security
   analysis for BGP [RFC4272].  The original discussion of the use of
   the TCP MD5 signature option to protect BGP sessions is found in
   [RFC5925], while [RFC6952] includes an analysis of BGP keying and
   authentication issues.

   The mechanisms described in this document involve sharing routing or
   reachability information between domains: that may mean disclosing
   information that is normally contained within a domain.  So it needs
   to be understood that normal security paradigms based on the
   boundaries of domains are weakened.  Discussion of these issues with
   respect to VPNs can be found in [RFC4364], while [RFC7926] describes
   many of the issues associated with the exchange of topology or TE
   information between domains.

   Particular exposures resulting from this work include:

   o  Gateways to an SR domain will know about all other gateways to the
      same domain.  This feature applies within a domain and so is not a
      substantial exposure, but it does mean that if the BGP exchanges
      within a domain can be snooped or if a gateway can be subverted
      then an attacker may learn the full set of gateways to a domain.
      This would facilitate more effective attacks on that domain.

   o  The existence of multiple gateways to a domain becomes more
      visible across the backbone and even into remote domains.  This
      means that an attacker is able to prepare a more comprehensive
      attack than exists when only the locally attached backbone network



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      (e.g., the AS that hosts the domain) can see all of the gateways
      to a site.  For example, a Denial of Service attack on a single GW
      is mitigated by the existence of other GWs, but if the attacker
      knows about all the gateways then the whole set can be attacked at
      once.

   o  A node in a domain that does not have external BGP peering (i.e.,
      is not really a domain gateway and cannot speak BGP into the
      backbone network) may be able to get itself advertised as a
      gateway by letting other genuine gateways discover it (by speaking
      BGP to them within the domain) and so may get those genuine
      gateways to advertise it as a gateway into the backbone network.
      This would allow the malicious node to attract traffic without
      having to have secure BGP peerings with out-of-domain nodes.

   o  If it is possible to modify a BGP message within the backbone, it
      may be possible to spoof the existence of a gateway.  This could
      cause traffic to be attracted to a specific node and might result
      in black-holing of traffic.

   All of the issues in the list above could cause disruption to domain
   interconnection, but are not new protocol vulnerabilities so much as
   new exposures of information that SHOULD be protected against using
   existing protocol mechanisms.  Furthermore, it is a general
   observation that if these attacks are possible then it is highly
   likely that far more significant attacks can be made on the routing
   system.  It should be noted that BGP peerings are not discovered, but
   always arise from explicit configuration.

9.  Manageability Considerations

   The principal configuration item added by this solution is the
   allocation of an SR domain identifier.  The same identifier MUST be
   assigned to every GW to the same domain, and each domain MUST have a
   different identifier.  This requires coordination, probably through a
   central management agent.

   It should be noted that BGP peerings are not discovered, but always
   arise from explicit configuration.  This is no different from any
   other BGP operation.

9.1.  Relationship to Route Target Constraint

   In order to limit the VPN routing information that is maintained at a
   given route reflector, [RFC4364] suggests the use of "Cooperative
   Route Filtering" [RFC5291] between route reflectors.  [RFC4684]
   defines an extension to that mechanism to include support for
   multiple autonomous systems and asymmetric VPN topologies such as



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   hub-and-spoke.  The mechanism in RFC 4684 is known as Route Target
   Constraint (RTC).

   An operator would not normally configure RTC by default for any AFI/
   SAFI combination, and would only enable it after careful
   consideration.  When using the mechanisms defined in this document,
   the operator should consider carefully the effects of filtering
   routes.  In some cases this may be desirable, and in others it could
   limit the effectiveness of the procedures.

10.  Acknowledgements

   Thanks to Bruno Rijsman, Stephane Litkowski, Boris Hassanov, Linda
   Dunbar, Ravi Singh, and Gyan Mishra for review comments, and to
   Robert Raszuk for useful discussions.

11.  References

11.1.  Normative References

   [I-D.ietf-idr-bgpls-segment-routing-epe]
              Previdi, S., Talaulikar, K., Filsfils, C., Patel, K., Ray,
              S., and J. Dong, "BGP-LS extensions for Segment Routing
              BGP Egress Peer Engineering", draft-ietf-idr-bgpls-
              segment-routing-epe-19 (work in progress), May 2019.

   [I-D.ietf-idr-tunnel-encaps]
              Patel, K., Velde, G., Sangli, S., and J. Scudder, "The BGP
              Tunnel Encapsulation Attribute", draft-ietf-idr-tunnel-
              encaps-21 (work in progress), January 2021.

   [RFC2119]  Bradner, S., "Key words for use in RFCs to Indicate
              Requirement Levels", BCP 14, RFC 2119,
              DOI 10.17487/RFC2119, March 1997,
              <https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc2119>.

   [RFC4271]  Rekhter, Y., Ed., Li, T., Ed., and S. Hares, Ed., "A
              Border Gateway Protocol 4 (BGP-4)", RFC 4271,
              DOI 10.17487/RFC4271, January 2006,
              <https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc4271>.

   [RFC4360]  Sangli, S., Tappan, D., and Y. Rekhter, "BGP Extended
              Communities Attribute", RFC 4360, DOI 10.17487/RFC4360,
              February 2006, <https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc4360>.

   [RFC5925]  Touch, J., Mankin, A., and R. Bonica, "The TCP
              Authentication Option", RFC 5925, DOI 10.17487/RFC5925,
              June 2010, <https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc5925>.



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   [RFC7752]  Gredler, H., Ed., Medved, J., Previdi, S., Farrel, A., and
              S. Ray, "North-Bound Distribution of Link-State and
              Traffic Engineering (TE) Information Using BGP", RFC 7752,
              DOI 10.17487/RFC7752, March 2016,
              <https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc7752>.

   [RFC8174]  Leiba, B., "Ambiguity of Uppercase vs Lowercase in RFC
              2119 Key Words", BCP 14, RFC 8174, DOI 10.17487/RFC8174,
              May 2017, <https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc8174>.

11.2.  Informative References

   [I-D.farrel-spring-sr-domain-interconnect]
              Farrel, A. and J. Drake, "Interconnection of Segment
              Routing Domains - Problem Statement and Solution
              Landscape", draft-farrel-spring-sr-domain-interconnect-05
              (work in progress), October 2018.

   [I-D.ietf-idr-bgp-ls-segment-routing-ext]
              Previdi, S., Talaulikar, K., Filsfils, C., Gredler, H.,
              and M. Chen, "BGP Link-State extensions for Segment
              Routing", draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-segment-routing-ext-16
              (work in progress), June 2019.

   [RFC4272]  Murphy, S., "BGP Security Vulnerabilities Analysis",
              RFC 4272, DOI 10.17487/RFC4272, January 2006,
              <https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc4272>.

   [RFC4364]  Rosen, E. and Y. Rekhter, "BGP/MPLS IP Virtual Private
              Networks (VPNs)", RFC 4364, DOI 10.17487/RFC4364, February
              2006, <https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc4364>.

   [RFC4684]  Marques, P., Bonica, R., Fang, L., Martini, L., Raszuk,
              R., Patel, K., and J. Guichard, "Constrained Route
              Distribution for Border Gateway Protocol/MultiProtocol
              Label Switching (BGP/MPLS) Internet Protocol (IP) Virtual
              Private Networks (VPNs)", RFC 4684, DOI 10.17487/RFC4684,
              November 2006, <https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc4684>.

   [RFC5291]  Chen, E. and Y. Rekhter, "Outbound Route Filtering
              Capability for BGP-4", RFC 5291, DOI 10.17487/RFC5291,
              August 2008, <https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc5291>.

   [RFC6952]  Jethanandani, M., Patel, K., and L. Zheng, "Analysis of
              BGP, LDP, PCEP, and MSDP Issues According to the Keying
              and Authentication for Routing Protocols (KARP) Design
              Guide", RFC 6952, DOI 10.17487/RFC6952, May 2013,
              <https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc6952>.



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   [RFC7911]  Walton, D., Retana, A., Chen, E., and J. Scudder,
              "Advertisement of Multiple Paths in BGP", RFC 7911,
              DOI 10.17487/RFC7911, July 2016,
              <https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc7911>.

   [RFC7926]  Farrel, A., Ed., Drake, J., Bitar, N., Swallow, G.,
              Ceccarelli, D., and X. Zhang, "Problem Statement and
              Architecture for Information Exchange between
              Interconnected Traffic-Engineered Networks", BCP 206,
              RFC 7926, DOI 10.17487/RFC7926, July 2016,
              <https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc7926>.

   [RFC8126]  Cotton, M., Leiba, B., and T. Narten, "Guidelines for
              Writing an IANA Considerations Section in RFCs", BCP 26,
              RFC 8126, DOI 10.17487/RFC8126, June 2017,
              <https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc8126>.

   [RFC8402]  Filsfils, C., Ed., Previdi, S., Ed., Ginsberg, L.,
              Decraene, B., Litkowski, S., and R. Shakir, "Segment
              Routing Architecture", RFC 8402, DOI 10.17487/RFC8402,
              July 2018, <https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc8402>.

Authors' Addresses

   Adrian Farrel
   Old Dog Consulting

   Email: adrian@xxxxxxxxxxxx


   John Drake
   Juniper Networks

   Email: jdrake@xxxxxxxxxxx


   Eric Rosen
   Juniper Networks

   Email: erosen52@xxxxxxxxx


   Keyur Patel
   Arrcus, Inc.

   Email: keyur@xxxxxxxxxx





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   Luay Jalil
   Verizon

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