Stephane and all former DNSO GA members or other interested stakeholders/users, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: > On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 03:09:16PM +0100, > Vittorio Bertola <vb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote > a message of 19 lines which said: > > > that posting in English is a significant additional effort for many > > of us - not to mention speaking in English at physical meetings or > > even from a podium... > > It is clearly a problem in every international forum: IETF or RIPE > (which are supposed to allow the participation of everyone on an equal > basis) are quite difficult to master if you are not very proficient in > spoken english. I have two responses and/or suggested remedies. 1.) If the UN can handle it, who cannot the IETF, Ripe or ICANN now be able to do so. Answer: They really don't want to... Suggestion: Take the time an effort to provide for translators [ Human type ] and/or acquire the available software to do real time language translation, both written or spoken. 2.) As English is the international language of choice, perhaps those that cannot or do not speak, read or write English should take the personal responsibility to learn. [ This is the I don't know how many times I have suggested this time I have made this recommendation ]. I as an individual have taken the time as an American to learn to speak chinese, read, write and speak Spanish, Read and speak pretty good French, and have spoken German most of my life. If I can accomplish this, than surely many ICANN, Ripe, and IETF folks that do not comprehend english very well can at least learn to do so fairly proficiently. Failing to take that reasonable and well advised responsibility by any of these organizations forum's participants to master English is nothing more than pure lazieness or inconsideration for the majority of stakeholders/users that speak and/or read english more than adequately... Regards, -- Jeffrey A. Williams Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 134k members/stakeholders strong!) "Be precise in the use of words and expect precision from others" - Pierre Abelard "If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B; liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by P: i.e., whether B is less than PL." United States v. Carroll Towing (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947] =============================================================== Updated 1/26/04 CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security IDNS. div. of Information Network Eng. INEG. INC. E-Mail jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Registered Email addr with the USPS Contact Number: 214-244-4827