I don't want to wade into this thread much, as I think it's mostly an irrelevant conversation. The ANIMA WG has a document, draft-ietf-anima-brski-async-enroll-00 where we are trying to adapt an online use of TLS (with RFC7030 + RFC8366), to be an an offline mode with CMP rather than EST for enrollment. This is a variation of delay tolerant networking (and we currently lack a deep understanding of what DTNRG has done), where round trips are implemented by an installer walking up/down (basement) stairs. Freshness and proof-of-possession of provite key, and proximity are the challenges. -- Michael Richardson <mcr+IETF@xxxxxxxxxxxx> . o O ( IPv6 IøT consulting ) Sandelman Software Works Inc, Ottawa and Worldwide
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