On 3/4/21 2:57 PM, Andrew Sullivan wrote:
In that case, there are multiple issues here. Off the top of my head:
• People from sanctioned countries under the laws of wherever the
IETF is incorporated may face legal barriers to interactions with the
corporate body of the IETF.
• People from sanctioned countries under any law may face legal
barriers in arranging support for or travel to their IETF activities.
• People from sanctioned countries may have their network
connectivity impaired in various ways.
• People from sanctioned countries under any law may face barriers
to arranging payments for any paid IETF activities due to the rules
imposed by payment processors. These may be beyond the control of the
IETF and may not be in place or foreseeable at the time of the IETF's
contract with the processor, so they may not be possible to fix.
Yes, I think all of those are true, and thanks for the list.
I do think that it is useful to lay out issues in a way such that the
things that are actually addressable get priority. Geopolitical
harmony does not seem to be the barrier to inclusion and diversity
that the IETF needs to prioritize compared to some other things that
are perhaps closer to home.
I think it makes sense to work on the issues that actually seem to be
addressable before working on the issues that do not seem addressible,
but you don't want to prune the list premature. Because sometimes there
are workarounds that aren't immediately obvious. (Though perhaps not
for any of the cases you mention.)
thanks again,
Keith
