On Wed, Feb 3, 2021 at 2:40 PM Donald Eastlake <d3e3e3@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
With current technology, virtual meetings are markedly inferior to
physical meetings. I oppose any reduction from three such meetings a
year, when they can be held, as such a change will make the IETF less
effective.
I'd like to see more online and not have 3 in-person meetings a year. The lower costs may make it more accessible to some who cannot afford to travel. It is also more equitable if everyone is remote for at least some of the meetings. One time a year in person might be fine and I think we can figure that out. This may also help primary caretakers of children or parents. I know that has been a barrier expressed int he past from parents of young children.
In terms of timelines, some countries have not started to vaccinate yet as the richer countries have bought the initial supplies. With virus mutations, I suspect the IETF won't be able to meet in July if transmission of variants is possible.
Equitable considerations should be factored into the decision process.
Best regards,
Kathleen
Thanks,
Donald
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On Wed, Feb 3, 2021 at 1:14 AM Loa Andersson <loa@xxxxx> wrote:
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> Fred, et.al.,
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> inline please
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> On 03/02/2021 02:36, Erik Kline wrote:
> > +manycouches@xxxxxxxx
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> > On Tue, Feb 2, 2021 at 10:31 AM Fred Baker <fredbaker.ietf@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>
> >> Looking at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/charter-ietf-shmoo/ballot/, I noted that there is no mailing list for this. Had there been one, this note would have been posted to it. I apologize for the wide distribution.
> >>
> >> I can see setting up a policy for meetings that are cancelled by Force Majuere, but the fact that we have had such doesn’t call for stopping having meetings. The fact is that face-to-face meetings have value - people can get to know each other and set up a social basis for discussion, if nothing else. I can see scaling back - our European colleagues find the summer meeting timing awkward at best. But I don;’t see the temporary effect of having a global pandemic as justification for simply shutting down to mailing lists - which would be the likely effect of failing to meet.
> >>
> >> So yes, I think we would do well to meet for IETF 111 and on.
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> I agree, but think this is IETF 112, in the best case.
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> /Loa
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> >>
> >> Sent from my iPad
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