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Subject: Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-mpls-lsp-ping-registries-update-06.txt> (Updating the IANA MPLS LSP Ping Parameters) to Proposed Standard
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2021 09:38:35 +0000
From: tom petch <daedulus@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Loa Andersson <loa@xxxxx>

On 27/01/2021 07:02, Loa Andersson wrote:
Tom,

I looked more closely at the registry where you cherry pick RSC and
DDMAP, and found that there are more unstarred abbreviations, e.g. BFD,
FEC, OAM, PM

I think my reasoning that if the abbreviaitions are exånded in the
referenced document that is enough.

Disagree.  I think that they need expanding in this I-D which is after
all the reference in several places.  Add them all to the Terminology
section.

Tom Petch

/Loa

On 27/01/2021 14:47, Loa Andersson wrote:
Tom,

Thanks for comments, see inline.

Adrian,

As Shepherd uou might have an opinion on some of my tampering with the
text below.

On 26/01/2021 20:41, tom petch wrote:
On 12/01/2021 22:15, The IESG wrote:

The IESG has received a request from the Multiprotocol Label
Switching WG
(mpls) to consider the following document: - 'Updating the IANA MPLS
LSP Ping
Parameters'
   <draft-ietf-mpls-lsp-ping-registries-update-06.txt> as Proposed
Standard

The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and
solicits final
comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the
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I have started a working copy of the document, and will post when
Deborah tell me.

A recent IESG queried whether or not IANA could be a Normative
Reference; this I-D makes me hope that that question is resolved.


Yes, we resolved this and the SPL terminology was approved by the IESG
and the comment from Murray Kucherawy was withdrawn.

Abstract LSP needs expanding, not a starred abbreviation

Fixed this.

Question: Do you think the document title also need to be updated?

RSC, DDMAP later, likewise

hmmm, this might be a can of wors, with quite substantial ripple
effects. But it you insist I can open it  :).

The registry is defined in RFC 8029 with <RFC> (no expansion in it).

The <RSC> is in a part of the registry that isd not changed by this
document, and there is a clear reference to RFC 8029 where it is
expanded, so if I don't expand in the registry that in the registry
that would be an update to RFC 8029 . Doable! But the update/expansion
would be in a section where RSC (Return Subcode) is already expanded
and the text of RFC 8029 would flow badly.

There is one more thing that is not intended as a chage, the draft
says (RSC), but the registry says <RSC>, I have been looing for how to
enter < and > into xml, but not found it, can someone help?

I'm inclined to not expand <RSC> in the registry, maybe we could add a
note after the registry with the expansion and referencing the correct
paragraph in RFC 8029, section 3.1.

DDMAP is the same thing, it is correctly expanded in RFC 8029m which
if referenced. This is also a part of the registry that has not been
changed.



sun-TLVs appears 37 times; perhaps sub-TLVs

fixed

/[[RFC8209]/[RFC8209]/

fixed


/Loa

3.1.1
'will be sent' perhaps MUST be

'may be silently ignored' perhaps MAY

I would like a second opinion on this, I think this is rather
description than specification.


6.1.3
'AM Problem/Delay' OAM?

fixed

/Loa


Tom Petch


Abstract


    This document updates RFC 8029 and RFC 8611 that both define IANA
    registries for MPLS LSP Ping.  It also updates the description


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