+1. It is time to move on and adapt. I agree with Russ on the increased security offered from HTTPS and the practicality points from both Russ and Chris.
Best regards,
Kathleen
On Fri, Nov 20, 2020 at 11:39 AM Chris Inacio <inacio@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
+1.
FTP was great in its day. I also really liked gopher. Maybe more than the current web. But let’s be real - that’s just not practical at this point, IMHO. The Internet (at large) has moved on, possible even enabled by IETF, we should keep to that reality.
Chris
> On Nov 16, 2020, at 5:43 AM, Russ Housley <housley@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> I support turning off the FTP service at ietf.org. The FTP daemon places frustrating constraints on the file system structure. HTTPS offers much greater security, and it does not impose constraints on the file system structure.
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> Russ
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>> On Nov 9, 2020, at 9:23 PM, Roman Danyliw <rdd@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
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>> Hi!
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>> The Internet Engineering Steering Group (IESG) is seeking community input on retiring the IETF FTP service (ftp://ftp.ietf.org, ftp://ops.ietf.org, ftp://ietf.org). A review of this service has found that FTP appears to serve a very small community and HTTP has become the access mechanism of choice. Given this shift in community usage, reducing the operational complexity of the overall IETF infrastructure seems to outweigh the very limited community served with FTP.
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>> In reviewing the additional impacts of such a service retirement, the dependencies on FTP have been assessed. Additionally, it has been confirmed that all information currently reachable through FTP will continue to be available through other services (HTTP, RSYNC, IMAP).
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>> In consultation with the Tools team (Robert, Glen, Henrik, Russ, and Alexey), Communications team (Greg), affected SDO liaisons, IAB Chair, and LLC ED, a proposed retirement plan was developed and is available at:
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>> https://www.ietf.org/media/documents/Retiring_IETF_FTP_Service.pdf
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>> The IESG appreciates any input from the community on this proposal and will consider all input received by December 4, 2020 (to account for the upcoming IETF 109 and holidays).
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>> Regards,
>> Roman
>> (as the IESG Tools Liaison)
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>
Best regards,
Kathleen
