Re: [Last-Call] Secdir last call review of draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header-10

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Thanks Med -

This sufficiently addresses my comments. Thanks for adding clarity with the edits.

I do want to ask again, though, whether you're closing off an opportunity with the requirement that all the identifiers belong to a single subscriber, and that the group made that choice explicitly rather than just falling into it.

I could see an alternative that looked like "allow multiple identities, and the use of them in inferred policies is 'is any of' ". Stretching a little into slightly different problem domains, consider, for example, the doctor that could be using his own phone number or the office phone number.

I'm not suggesting that allowing such multiple identities is the right thing to do, but I want to verify that simple alternatives like that were considered and rejected, and that you have a way to do them in the future if you want.

The text does imply that the group looked at the general problem of trying to capture arbitrary relationships between multiple identities, and decided not to solve that. If that's how it happened, you might consider explicitly saying that so future related work isn't guessing or making assumptions about the motivation here.

RjS

On 10/28/20 8:12 AM, mohamed.boucadair@xxxxxxxxxx wrote:
Hi Roberts,

Many thanks for this useful review. Much appreciated!

A diff from the previous version is available at:
https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header-11

Cheers,
Med

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De : Robert Sparks [mailto:rjsparks@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Envoyé : lundi 26 octobre 2020 23:45
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Objet : Re: [Last-Call] Secdir last call review of draft-ietf-sfc-
serviceid-header-10

Heh - one typo correction below (that might have been obvious,
but...)

On 10/26/20 5:25 PM, Robert Sparks via Datatracker wrote:
Reviewer: Robert Sparks
Review result: Has Nits

I have reviewed this document as part of the security
directorate's
ongoing effort to review all IETF documents being processed by the
IESG. These comments were written primarily for the benefit of the
security area directors. Document editors and WG chairs should
treat
these comments just like any other last call comments.

This document has nits that should be addressed before publication
as
Proposed Standard RFC.

Document reviewed: draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header-10

This document's security considerations rest on the premise that
the
information it discusses will be added, transported, consumed, and
removed within a single administrative domain that is protected
from
eavesdroppers and malicious on-path attackers through
administrative
controls. It is quite upfront about that assumption, and the sfc
documents it relies on make the same assertions.

This document introduces a mechanism that intentionally allows
identifiers
(addresses) that would normally be hidden/contained behind a nat
to be
shared beyond that nat, but again, within that single
administrative domain.
NITS:

There are many places where the language in the document needs to
be
simplified. There are also many places where 2119 language is
being
used in a way that does not make sense.

In document order:

Introduction paragraph 2, sentence 1. What does it mean to infer
enforcement?
Perhaps you mean "policies can be inferred"? Please simplify this
sentence.
Break the example into a separate sentence and add detail if you
can.
If possible, provide a reference to what you mean by "SFC-based
differentiated traffic policies" means.

Introduction paragraph 3. This whole paragraph has complicated,
paragraph
That last word should have been "comma"
separated, phrases that should be written more simply. The next to
last sentence (at 53 words) is particularly hard to follow.

Introduction paragraph 4, last sentence. This sentence does not
parse.
Please rework it.

Introduction paragraph 5. This one sentence paragraph was the most
difficult in the document for me to read. Please break it into
several simpler sentences.
Section 3: at "In order to prevent interoperability issues, the
data
and their format to be injected in such header SHOULD be
configured to
nodes authorized to inject such headers." This is not a 2119
SHOULD.
It's even not clear what "the data" is here. I suggest something
like
"The identifiers carried in the Context Headers are opaque. Nodes
providing them and consuming them will be configured with the
necessary information needed see into them."
Section 3, at "Failures to inject such headers SHOULD be logged
locally while a notification alarm MAY be sent to a Control
Element.
The details of sending notification alarms (i.e., the parameters
affecting the transmission of the notification alarms depend on
the
information in the Context Header such as frequency, thresholds,
and
content of the alarm (full header, timestamp, etc.)) SHOULD be
configurable." None of these are correct use of 2119. Consider re-
framing the paragraph without using these terms.
Section 3 at "That is, to strip such Context Headers." is not a
sentence.
Section 3 at the paragraph beginning "Depending on local policy".
The
structure of this paragraph is very odd. Doesn't base SFC say to
preserve NSH at intermediaries? I suggest replacing this paragraph
with something like "Normal SFC intermediary behavior preserves
Network Service Headers. Local policy can require a proxy to strip
..."
Section 3 at "NSH-aware SFs MUST be capable to run additional
validation checks". This isn't 2119. Perhaps you mean to say "Be
aware
that local policies may require running additional validation
checks
at NSH-aware SFs". The whole paragraph can be simplified.

Section 3 at "Multiple Subscriber Identifier Context Headers MAY
be
present in the NSH, each carrying a distinct opaque value but all
pointing to the same subscriber." This is a place where a 2119
MUST
_would_ make sense. Say "Such multiple headers MUST identify the
same
subscriber". I wonder, though, if you're closing a door on
carrying multiple identities that you'll regret later.
Section 4 first paragraph, first sentence: I suggest replacing
"identifier is"
with "identifiers are"

Section 4 fifth paragraph: "defined as optional" -> "defined as an
optional"
Section 4 sixth paragraph. Similar to the section 3 paragraph I
point
to above, the structure here is very odd. Again, I suggest
something
like "Normal SFC intermediaries will preserve Context Headers, but
local policy may require a proxy to to strip one after processing
it."
Section 4 seventh paragraph: "ocnlficting"->"conflicting". I
assume
the default behavior described here is specified in the base NSH
docs?
Security Considerations section paragraph 4: Consider "logging the
content of ... is not advised" rather than using 2119 here. The
paragraph would be better formulated if it explained the risk -
SFs
that _did_ use the context might be better off not logging them in
many cases as well.


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