Ofer, The rules under which I-Ds are submitted and published are clear: "Internet-Drafts that have been removed (for any reason) from the Internet-Drafts directories shall be archived by the IETF Secretariat for the sole purpose of preserving an historical record of Internet standards activity..." [BCP9, RFC2026] The IETF Trust can, and has, built legal precision around the rights in I-Ds but they cannot, and have not, changed the rule that they are archived. Regards Brian Carpenter On 25-Oct-20 05:07, Ofer Inbar wrote: > On Sat, Oct 24, 2020 at 05:39:33PM +0200, > Toerless Eckert <tte@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> Technically, the key reason for not removing the drafts to me is that >> only because Khaled was posting the drafts to the IETF did he get cycles from >> the IETF community that was expressed through many public and (from what i >> read) also private emails. And it could be seen as a disrespect to those >> that did spend cycles on reading those drafts and providing feedback to >> remove the drafts. Especially given how the public exchanges about the >> draft are archived and those archives would not be comprehensible if the >> references documents where removed. > > You made it seem like a secondary point, but for me personally, the > main reason not to remove drafts is to make it possible for people > reading the list archives or looking into history later on, to see > what was being discussed at the time and read it directly. > > For that reason, I would feel quite uncomfortable if I saw drafts > being removed from the archives merely because the submitter wished to > stop working with the IETF. Having the drafts present does not > prevent the submitter from ceasing to work with the IETF. Knowing > that that's all it takes to get a draft removed, would make me feel > about any future draft "this might just disappear later", which > changes the way people might relate to all future proposals. > -- Cos > >
