> From: gnulinux@xxxxxxxxxxx > ... > > Having the latest tools means nothing, unless they are used right. Are > > i'm using them correctly I, for one, am unconvinced. I have had no trouble filtering unwanted mail from this list, thanks to procmail. My various filters have no trouble dealing with more than 99.9% of the unsolicited bulk mail including viruses and worms directed at my mailbox. For my mail, my filters have a total false positive rate (legitimate rejected divided by total legitimate) of less than 0.1%. Whether your filters are doing as well as you want them to does not seem like a concern of the IETF. > ... > the value in having the list processor sign all posts > is simple. guaranteed identification of the list > traffic for any recipient who decides to verify > signatures. I think it would be simpler for all concerned and in this case just as effective if the IETF list processor would offer to do SMTP-TLS and for an appropriate cert to be published on http://ietf.org/ However, I would not suggesting that for any practical or operational reason. It would merely set a good example. Vernon Schryver vjs@xxxxxxxxxxxx