In article <20200918010252.GB35596@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> you write: >> > How about going to a crowd-funding model, ietf-kickstarter or the like: >> > - Let attendees pay for in-person meeting upfront, e.g.: up to november 2019 for IETF111 >> > - If sufficient number of registrations are not made, money back, IETF111 will only be online. >> > - If later on IETF111 has to decide to go online, some type of insurance backed money back >> > maybe with some loss. Likewise if/when attendee later needs to cancel. >> >> I don???t think that this works the way you think it does, i.e. it assumes that a payment is a commitment and a non-payment is a definitive >non-commitment, when neither are true. > >Well, as the kickstarter model has shown how you can leverage payment to much more upfront >decide on the vaiability of a type of product. Why not aply the idea to meetings. Because the hotel arrangements for meetings that involve hundreds of hotel rooms and meeting facilities need to be made a long time in advance. It's not like booking a family holiday. R's, John