On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 12:43:15 -0800 Harald Tveit Alvestrand <harald@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I got the following stuff in response to a mail I sent to the IETF list. > Since I have no idea whether this is an email harvester or a "legitimate" > antispam tool (the form gave no indication, and no links to more > information about its owner), I don't have enough information to decide > reliably to respond to the message. i have run internet mailing lists since about 1985. when the first C/R systems showed up a few years ago, i arrived at simple conclusion very quickly. anybody who installs a C/R system and doesn't whitelist the mailing lists they subscribe to doesn't deserve to receive those mailing lists. i remove from my lists anyone who does this. nobody has complained yet. i'd strongly urge that the IETF adapt a similar policy. it's much less stressful for all concerned. richard -- Richard Welty rwelty@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Averill Park Networking 518-573-7592 Java, PHP, PostgreSQL, Unix, Linux, IP Network Engineering, Security