On Tue, 17 Feb 2004, Vernon Schryver wrote: > > From: "william(at)elan.net" > > > > It is also a classic example of what is wrong with the MUA filtering > > > > You certain dont assume that there is nothing wrong with the filtering > > system you use and others may try duplicate as well. Otherwise how would > > you explain that you have Elan and completewhois.com listed as filtered > > on your site. Do you honestly believe we ever sent you any SPAM? Or maybe > > you're making certain assumptions about envelope from or normal "From:" > > headers and complaining when others are making the similar assumptions? > > Mail from Elan and completewhois.com is unwelcome at rhyolite.com in > patt because of a message that said: You might want to post headers that show it being sent from some open-proxy in pacific and showing use of email accounts that were never there. > ] Elan.Net Internet > ] T.1 T.3 Frame Relay > ] If you need more information about us or are interested in network services > ] (managed hosting, collocation, dedicated servers, t1, t3), please send email to info@xxxxxxxx > ] > ] For More info > ] http://www.elan.net > ] sales@xxxxxxxx > > There are additional, independent, sufficient reasons for that listing > that we do not need to explore. Except that we did not send that message and anti-spam community was informed it was a joe-job (95% guessed as much on their own). Considering you knew who I'm am, I suspect you knew all this as well and if you did not you might have notice a warning about this on the website. > An advantage of a vanity or other tiny domain is that it can use > blacklists that would have intolerable false positive rates at other > or larger outfits but that have 0.000% local false positive rates. That is unlikely considering what I know about your list. Unless you make a good effort to research anything you probably have as many problems as some of the most agressive ip-based filtering sites (like spews), you might make a number of good hits but would have number of misses as well. Besides that as has been shown many times, for spammers its a lot easier and less expensive to get new domain that to get new ip block - and many do and setup hundreds of new domains on monthly basis. As such the value of domain-based filtering is very minimal indeed. -- William Leibzon Elan Networks william@xxxxxxxx