Re: what is consensus, or We could learn from ISO

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On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 01:51:27PM -0400, John Levine wrote:
> Unfortunately, you only need a few people willing to die on every
> molehill to blow up a consensus process. IETF rough consensus more or
> less appoints WG chairs and the IESG to decide when the molehillers
> would have stood aside.

Not so.  Rough consensus does not mean unanimity.  I've been on the
rough side of consensus even when I thought I had a winning technical
argument.  Rough consensus does mean that we need an authority to decide
it, and that is typically a WG chair for WG consensus, and so on.  And
consensus calls can be challenged via appeals.  That's the process.
Being willing to die on a hill cannot stop a document progressing as-is
if the IETF is intent on publishing it.




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