On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 3:53 AM Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Auckland's large new Convention Centre is supposed to be ready before January 2025 (after various delays up to and including the pandemic). Last time Auckland was seriously considered, it would have been a tight squeeze in the old convention centre. We're only a 3.5 hour hop from Sydney or Melbourne, and non-stop from N. America and much of Asia. In any case, it's a long time since the Adelaide meeting, so I think this is a great proposal. I've only been to New Zealand once (for the Apricot meeting), but I found it to be one of the nicest places I've visited. I arrived late at night, and wanted to get some food, so I ordered a pizza online; I walked out the back of the hotel, and then discovered I'd have to walk down a narrow alley outside a nightclub, crowded with teenagers. I'm an introvert and don't like rowdy teenagers (and was over-tired!), but I'd already ordered the pizza, so I took a deep breath and walked down the ally -- and everyone moved over to the side so I could easily pass, and smiled. On the way back the same thing happened, along with some polite "Evening, have a good pizza!" type comments. The entire time I was there I saw one policeman, and he was leaning against a lamp-post reading a newspaper -- and no-one seemed to mind; it was clear that he was available, but not really needed, so why not? Everything was clean, without exception everyone was pleasant, the food was good, the prices were OK, the weather was fine (slightly too sunny, but I'm really nit-picking), the city was interesting. If it wasn't so far, I really think I'd try to emigrate there... W > > Regards > Brian Carpenter > > On 24-Aug-20 17:40, Narelle Clark wrote: > > > > > > Hi all > > The IETF last went to Australia twenty years ago in 2000 for IETF 47 in Adelaide. My understanding was that it nearly scheduled it for 2017 but concern that the almost completed Sydney international convention centre wouldn't be ready on time meant that opportunity lapsed. The IEEE held their Sections Congress there then and it was very successful. > > > > I think it is about time that the IETF looked at another meeting down under in either Australia or New Zealand as we have several committed participants from that region and should be looking to increase the IETF profile here. I have spoken to the LLC about this and they would be very happy to consider a meeting here for 2024 or 2025. > > > > The 1-1-1-* meeting policy set out in RFC 8719 says that I need to write to the community to see if there is support for this proposal before the LLC can take a proper look and so this email is doing that. The LLC tell me that after any discussion about this, the IESG will decide if there is consensus to go ahead and if there is, the LLC will then produce a list of cities in that region and seek community input on those in the normal way, though there is no guarantee that a meeting can be arranged as it depends on venues, contracts and the other criteria in RFC 8718. > > > > I would hope that by then we will be COVID tolerant and meeting in person again. If I am still CEO of the Internet Association/IX Australia we will also seriously consider hosting or assisting in locating a good host. > > > > Best regards > > > > Narelle > > > > -- > > > > > > Narelle Clark > > > -- I don't think the execution is relevant when it was obviously a bad idea in the first place. This is like putting rabid weasels in your pants, and later expressing regret at having chosen those particular rabid weasels and that pair of pants. ---maf
