Re: IPv10 I-D Destiny.

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Hi all,

We wanted to let the list know that the sergeant-at-arms (SAA) team (described in more detail at [1]) consider this thread [2] to be more appropriate for int-area@xxxxxxxx [3]. And as per the IETF discussion list charter [4], we suggest that the discussions should be moved to the more specific forum identified.

Thanks,
Dhruv Dhody on behalf of the SAA team

[1] https://www.ietf.org/how/lists/discussion/
[2] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf/c8Un1c9wNrXUrzPOci_EdLEHBNY/
[3] https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/int-area
[4] https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3005

On 12/08/20 11:51 am, Lars Eggert wrote:
Hi,

On 2020-8-12, at 7:27, Khaled Omar <eng.khaled.omar@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
It’s really weird to hear the silence for my e-mails at the IETf main list,

you gave it not even four hours since your earlier email, which you posted in the middle of the night (European/US time). I am sure you will get feedback shortly (incl. mine below).

As I proposed an I-D earlier that offers a solution to this pandemic that started to be distributed in the internet due to IPv4 address space exhaustion and the no migration to IPv6 occurred till now.

So please take one moment and evaluate the IPv10 I-D and make an accurate decision whether it can be promoted to a Standard or there is another solution that could solve this problem from its roots.

This is not how the IETF operates. Please review RFC2026.

Regarding your proposal, briefly:

(1) A networking architecture consist of much more than a header encoding scheme - that is the easy part.

(2) Simply pointing to IPsec is not a security analysis.

(3) The I-D says "there is no need to think about migration" when there clearly is such a need - the I-D expects all hosts and routers to understand and speak a new packet format.

(4) This paragraph IMO demonstrates best how far from deployment realities the proposal is:

     "IPv10 support on "all" Internet connected hosts can be deployed
      in a very short time by technology companies developing OSs
      (for hosts and networking devices, and there will be no
      dependence on enterprise users and it is just a software
      development process in the NIC cards of all hosts to allow
      encapsulating both IPv4 and IPv6 in the same IP packet header."

Sorry, but this is unpublishable.

Lars





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