On 8/2/20 1:20 PM, Fred Baker wrote: > And for the record, this doesn’t originate in the IESG. It comes from HRPC. It did not come from HRPC, in the sense that there was not, to my recollection (which, granted, may be flawed), an RG decision to request publication in the IETF stream. It's "draft-knodel," not "draft-hrpc." For the most part people seem to be arguing from their own experiences and from what they believe to be true, rather than addressing the actual contents of the draft. Melinda -- Melinda Shore melinda.shore@xxxxxxxxx Software longa, hardware brevis