Re: [Last-Call] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-ospf-te-link-attr-reuse-12

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Hi Linda,


On 01/06/2020 17:30, Linda Dunbar wrote:
Peter,
You said:
/“//the problem with existing advertisement is that RSVP-TE will use it, even if it was not intended to be used by RSVP-TE.//”/ What is the problem if RSVP-TE use the advertisement? What specific attributes that RSVP-TE shouldn’t use?

Following text has been added to the draft based on comments from Scott.

"An example where this ambiguity causes problem is a network which has RSVP-TE enabled on one subset of links, and SRTE enabled on a different subset. A link attribute is advertised for the purpose of some other application (e.g. SRTE) for a link that is not enabled for RSV-TE. As soon as the router that is an RSVP-TE head-end sees the link attribute being advertised for such link, it assumes RSVP-TE is enabled on that link, even though in reality, RSVP-TE is not enabled on it. If such RSVP-TE head-end router tries to setup an RSVP-TE path via link where RSVP-TE is not enabled it will result in the path setup failure."

Hope it makes it clear and addresses your question.

thanks,
Peter





Linda Dunbar
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Linda,
On 29/05/2020 16:52, Linda Dunbar wrote:
Peter,
You said:
/we are not defining any new attributes./ /We are allowing an existing link attributes to be used by other applications, including, but not limited to SRTE./ What prevent a node (or an application on the node) receiving the LSA from using the attributes carried by the LSA?
the problem with existing advertisement is that RSVP-TE will use it, even if it was not intended to be used by RSVP-TE. We are providing a way to explicitly advertised apps that are allowed to use the advertised attributes.
If no new attributes are
to be added, then why need a new ASLA sub-TLV?
to be able to use the existing attributes for new apps, other than RSVP-TE.
thanks,
Peter
Linda
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Subject: Re: Genart last call review of
draft-ietf-ospf-te-link-attr-reuse-12
Hi Linda,
On 28/05/2020 19:02, Linda Dunbar via Datatracker wrote:
Reviewer: Linda Dunbar
Review result: Not Ready

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Document: draft-ietf-ospf-te-link-attr-reuse-??
Reviewer: Linda Dunbar
Review Date: 2020-05-28
IETF LC End Date: 2020-05-29
IESG Telechat date: Not scheduled for a telechat

Summary: this document introduces a new link attribute advertisement in OSPFv2 and OSPFv3 to address general link properties needed for new applications, such as Segment Routing.

Major issues:
The document has good description on the TLV structure of the Application specific Advertisements, but fails to describe what are the NEW Link attributes needed by Segment Routing. Page 7 (section 5) has a really good description on all the link properties added to OSFP (RFC4203, RFC 7308, RFC7471, RFC3630) to achieve TE. I can see Segment Routing would need each node to advertise its own SID and the SIDs of adjacent nodes. Can't they be encoded (or extended) in OSPF's NODE ID?
we are not defining any new attributes.
We are allowing an existing link attributes to be used by other applications, including, but not limited to SRTE.
thanks,
Peter

Minor issues:

Nits/editorial comments:

Best regards,

Linda Dunbar





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