On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 06:00:28PM -0700, Larry Masinter wrote: > I sent this idea a while back, but I wonder if this might be a BOF topic? If there's to be a BoF, there need to be proponents to push for the work, and most likely some I-Ds to clarify the type of thing you have in mind. -Ben > Modified based feedback > : > I spent a little time collecting experiences of people trying to > convert in-person activities to remote using the internet. A common > experience for many in the teacher/leader role is how to help their > students/employees/members with their Internet connections. > > How can the IETF help? > > What standards are there already, or should be developed in IETF > (if not, then where?) > > > * "What is needed in order to do X remotely" > Where "X" fits a small number of consumer categories ('office work" > "watch HD movies" "document collaboration" "voice meeting" "video > meeting" ) In terms of bandwidth, latency, jitter, dropout rate, > etc. (as might be spec'd in a SLA) > > Such that it would be possible to build > * an open-source test tool or reference implementation > that is available for popular platforms > (windows, mac, linux, ios, android) or run in the browser > > That one could download and run that would tell you Whether your > connection met the standard for various categories. > > * An aspirational goal, to include useful hints / diagnostics / data > about what you could do to improve (e.g. detect bufferbloat) > or policy problems > (such: "violates personal firewall policy X", "violates corporate security > policy > Y", "requires more bandwidth than policy allows", "attempts to connect to > sites/countries banned by policy") > > * should be usable as a metric for use in broadband access plans for > universal access > > > > > Some Internet games have meters, there's speedtest which is mostly > > > "bandwidth" There are some kinds of uses that need guaranteed low > > > latency > > There are standards for video quality (ITU J-341 and Netflix VMAF > > > > >