Re: Standards needed for "going remote" -- BOF?

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On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 06:00:28PM -0700, Larry Masinter wrote:
> I sent this idea a while back, but I wonder if this might be a BOF topic?

If there's to be a BoF, there need to be proponents to push for the work,
and most likely some I-Ds to clarify the type of thing you have in mind.

-Ben

> Modified based feedback
> :
> I spent a little time collecting experiences of people trying to
> convert in-person activities to remote using the internet.  A common
> experience for many in the teacher/leader role is how to help their
> students/employees/members with their Internet connections.
> 
> How can the IETF help?
> 
> What standards are there already, or should be developed in IETF 
> (if not, then where?)
> 
> 
>  * "What is needed in order to do X remotely"
>      Where "X" fits a small number of consumer categories ('office work"
>      "watch HD movies" "document collaboration" "voice meeting" "video
>     meeting" ) In terms of bandwidth, latency, jitter, dropout rate,
>     etc. (as might be spec'd in a SLA)
> 
> Such that it would be possible to build
> * an open-source test tool or reference implementation
>       that is available for popular platforms
>      (windows, mac, linux, ios, android) or run in the browser
> 
> That one could download and run that would tell you Whether your
> connection met the standard for various categories.
> 
> * An aspirational goal, to include useful hints / diagnostics / data
>    about what you could do to improve (e.g. detect bufferbloat)
>   or policy problems
>  (such: "violates personal firewall policy X", "violates corporate security
> policy
>  Y",  "requires more bandwidth than policy allows",  "attempts to connect to
>  sites/countries banned by policy")
> 
> * should be usable as a metric for use in broadband access plans for
> universal access
> > 
> >     > Some Internet games have meters, there's speedtest which is mostly
> >     > "bandwidth" There are some kinds of uses that need guaranteed low
> >     > latency
> 
> There are standards for video quality (ITU J-341 and Netflix VMAF 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 




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