Hi Randy, Tks, it is a matter of responsibility, but I'm sure that we will be back here very soon! I was not in agreement with the decision taken for the Vancouver meeting, but mainly because the way it was taken and the timing. The situation after several months, proven much worst and somehow being "inside" the "problem" also offers a different perspective. Also, my worries now aren't IETF108 anymore, but many close meetings and how bad governments are protecting us and creating a bas social and economic situation for millions of people. I don't want to open a "political debate" here and will *not* respond to this in the list, however I can't' avoid saying that I wrote an article (4 parts) with my views a few weeks ago ... so here is the link to the first part, for those interested in reading (and sharing!): https://jordipalet.blogspot.com/2020/04/covid-19-governments-responsibility..html#en Regards, Jordi @jordipalet El 14/5/20 23:49, "Randy Bush" <randy@xxxxxxx> escribió: it is very brave of you to staunchly advocate the safe position after all these years of work. thank you. randy ********************************************** IPv4 is over Are you ready for the new Internet ? http://www.theipv6company.com The IPv6 Company This electronic message contains information which may be privileged or confidential. The information is intended to be for the exclusive use of the individual(s) named above and further non-explicilty authorized disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information, even if partially, including attached files, is strictly prohibited and will be considered a criminal offense. If you are not the intended recipient be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information, even if partially, including attached files, is strictly prohibited, will be considered a criminal offense, so you must reply to the original sender to inform about this communication and delete it.