fhfrediani> Perhaps one of the reasons they are not being sufficiently adopted fhfrediani> because of the lack examples of people and organizations using them fhfrediani> and the main propose is that as much as possible organizations start fhfrediani> to do that in the many ways possible, and IETF is an natural fhfrediani> one. Really do you see such an inconvenience on that ? Eric Rescorla <ekr@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > Well, the other example besides videoconferencing that usually comes up > here is Github, and yes, it would be quite a large inconvenience not to > be able to use Github. I'd like to moderate the discussion/decision slightly. 1) I would like to see native use of IPv6 for a service to be considered among the top-5 criteria for selecting one service over another. 2) The time I would make IPv4-only connectivity for a service to be a problem is if fails to work for an IPv6-only desktop/etc. system via NAT64. (use of XLAT464 not acceptable). I believe that is essentially identical to the criteria that Apple applies to their AppStore. I use github.com from IPv6-only systems regularly via NAT64. It works great, except for certain docker configurations, which are a problem with Docker. I haven't tried ietf.webex.com yet. (I will note that webex audio appears to have stopped working this week from the public IPv4 that my desktop has) There are a number of places that are running publically accessible NAT64s. I'm skeptical that these will survive as they are identical to open proxies from a nuissance point of view. {I would otherwise suggest that any IPv4-only service that we IETF decides we *need* have a DC:SIIT proxy in front of it, operated by us. But, it won't work unless we put our AAAA into their DNS, otherwise TLS issues.} -- ] Never tell me the odds! | ipv6 mesh networks [ ] Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works | IoT architect [ ] mcr@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.sandelman.ca/ | ruby on rails [
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