Tony, > Tony Hain wrote > Like it or not, we are at the end of the IPV4 road I think that's where you missed it. We are not. The truth is that the end of the IPv4 road is in sight; how far away we don't really know, as looking through the NAT binoculars does not seem to make it closer. How fast we will be there we don't know either, as the Ferrari we were driving 3 years ago has run out of gas and we're now traveling in a much slower bus. > Anything that comes out of rearchitecting the > Internet will be at least another 10 year process. If it's designed as a protocol, likely. If it's designed as a product with a migration roadmap, not necessarily so. The very flaw in IPv6 is that it's never been designed as a product that needs to be adopted. Michel.