Ken, As it happens, I attended a dinner Saturday that was addressed by Ambassador Han, the Korean Ambassador to the U.S. Taking up the Korean visa issue today, I spoke with an official in the Washington DC visa section. I believe I can state the visa regulation as it applies to U.S. citizens. - Individuals traveling to Korean to attend the IETF meeting do not need a visa, as they are traveling to attend a non-profit conference. They can stay in Korea up to 30 day for such purpose and for tourism. - If you travel to Korea for business purposes, such as meeting customers or other business purposes, then a visa is needed. - This applies only to private U.S. citizens. Government employees and citizens of other countries need to contact their local Korean embassy for a determination in their case. Ken, in your case, if you are a government employee, you will need a visa. - Another consideration concerning visa. People attend IETF meetings as individuals, not directly representing their company -- and clearly a private individual traveling to attend a nonprofit technical meeting clearly does not need a visa. Warning. I am only relaying what was told to me today by a responsible embassy official. I am not attending the Seoul meeting, but if I was, I would want to have an official statement from an Korean official regarding the visa request. One official who can handle such a request at the visa section in Washington DC is Mr. Sang Yoo. I am copying this email to him. A member of the meeting committee might want to put a formal query to him, and email his answer to the list. For Mr. Yoo, details of the meeting: 59th IETF Meeting, Seoul, South Korea, 29 February - 5 March 2004. For information about the IETF (Internet Engineering Task Force) see: http://www.ietf.org/overview.html Gene Gaines gene.gaines@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx On Monday, January 12, 2004, 12:12:27 PM, Ken wrote: >>I'd be interested in answers people get from other consulate/embassy >>staff both from locations other than Boston and with different >>phrasings of the question. > Well, I finally was able to talk to someone at the Washington, DC, embassy. > Their answer? "We're not sure, but you might need one". > I basically took the same tactic that Sam took; I described the IETF as > a professional organization, and explained I was attending a meeting > of this organization. At first he said that a visa was not required, > because this counts as a "visit", but then he said he wasn't sure, and > maybe I would need a visa. > I then started asking a few more questions. I asked what exactly > "business" travel was defined as, and after going around a few times > about it, he basically settled on the definition that if you were > travelling to Korea to a meeting for a "business purpose", then you > need a visa. > The whole thing was as clear as mud, and he clearly wasn't that familiar > with the regulations. I might try calling a few more consulates to > see if I can find someone more knowledgeable. > BTW, has anyone been able to contact the host web site? (The one > linked off of the IETF Seoul meeting web page) > http://www.tta.or.kr/ietf59/index.htm > I've been trying for a few days now and no go. It doesn't seem like > a local network problem from where I'm sitting, but sometimes it's hard > to be sure. > --Ken --