*> *> But that's really not the point here. The role of an _engineering_ taskforce *> is to act like engineers, not a vanity press. Our output should be educated *> guidance to the wider community - created with diligence and offered with humility. *> We can do no more and should do no less. Grenville, Nicely said!! I would like to see your motto inscribed over the IETF portals... "We create with diligence and offer with humility". Bob Braden