Mike said: >If you're going to go there, it's worth pointing >out that the V in VoIP is a pretty artificial >distinction too. >Mike Dan said: Sip and even H.323 are "Multimedia presentation services". All are extensible far beyond two user full duplex speech. Like mislabelling atmospheric changes "global warming"... calling anything using speech codecs under Ip VoIP it completely distorts it and disrupts understanding by the unwashed masses. Dan concludes: I just try to get people here (cable TV types) to try to communicate a level of abstraction to customers... operators, not just get this big bonfire to clobber phone companies going. Sure a technical term is cool for technocrats like: 802.11b but then if you want to call it Cintrino, (or WiFi), etc that's ok too. But I'm just suggesting after all the high costs and steep learning curve to make it work; (QoS, MPLS, etc) it should be sold with more sizzle (and accuracy) than poor peoples phone services. While on the subject... Has anybody seen a fer sure count of how many LDAP or RR named persons are out there for SIP names? Obviously, that's one bottleneck for SIP that's hard to overcome. regs, Dan Dan Kolis - Lindsay Electronics Ltd dank@hq.lindsayelec.com 50 Mary Street West, Lindsay Ontario Canada K9V 2S7 (705) 324-2196 X272 (705) 324-5474 Fax An ISO 9001 Company; SCTE Member ISM-127194 /Document end