Keith, > is it really IETF's job to legislate full employment for conference > service operators? I find this very hard to understand. Are not service providers and network managers the people supposed to bring these services into operation? Who else has the operational credentials to define requirements for conferencing? If this was an emotional response, you need not reply. Henry > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-ietf@ietf.org [mailto:owner-ietf@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Keith > Moore > Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 12:36 PM > To: Henry Sinnreich > Cc: moore@cs.utk.edu; rohan@cisco.com; Henry.Sinnreich@mci.com; > vinton.g.cerf@mci.com; mrose@dbc.mtview.ca.us; jon.peterson@neustar.biz; > ietf@ietf.org; alan.johnston@mci.com; rsparks@dynamicsoft.com > Subject: Re: WG Review: Centralized Conferencing (xcon) > > > Leaving the SIP-XMPP discussion aside (nobody will change their mind > > anyway) a matter of concern is the 100% dominance of protocol experts > > in this discussion and no real participation from conference service > > operators and conference platform vendors. This raises several > > flags... > > once again, an attempt to coerce IETF into preserving the status quo in > the market. > > is it really IETF's job to legislate full employment for conference > service operators?