Harald Tveit Alvestrand writes: > Listening in on this conversation, it seems to me that > Marshall is talking about "conferencing" in a sense which > includes a lot of different mechanisms, the premier one > being instant messaging, while Jon (and the XCON charter) > speaks about "conferencing" in a sense that starts out > assuming that voice is included, and that video is the > logical next step, while conferencing based on IM, if > thought of at all, is regarded as a small side issue. As one of the chairs of the BOF, such was certainly *not* my understanding. The solution is intended to address media streams in general, not just voice and video. In particular, many people with whom I have spoken regarding XCON expressed interest in its application to instant messaging. Additionally, one of the strongest motivations within the SIMPLE community for adding session-mode messaging is the ability to take advantage of any other capabilities that can be applied to SIP sessions, such as multiparty conferencing. To reinforce that point: one of the primary reasons (in my estimation) that SIMPLE has not proposed solutions for chat rooms is the realization that such functionality comes for free once a general conferencing solution is defined. I would posit that the expectation of SIMPLE is that the solution created by XCON will be usable for this application. > I don't know how to add markers to the charter to > make it obvious how the word "conferencing" is > intended here, however. I believe any modifications to the charter that de-emphasized text as a media type would be a disservice to a significant number of potential XCON participants. /a