S Woodside wrote: [..] > That is, perhaps, a good thing, since I think that most naive people > will THINK that they intuitively grasp what end-to-end means, but they > are wrong. Most naive people are wrong about many things, but this is not an argument for making up new words to express broadly-similar-but-different-in-context concepts. It is an argument for naive people to recognize their lack of knowledge and go to the sources pertinent to the subject matter. Which, for the purposes of understanding packet networking and "the internet", is NOT your local dictionary. gja