I tend to disagree with you Ross, First it is not excessive by definition because we are not covering our costs. Second I don't think it is excessive because I know of MANY weeklong conferences that want in the order of 1000-1700 registration fees... I can see how this is VERY different between someone whos company pays (who cares it isn't my money) and someone on a grant, sending themselves (every penny counts, cause money I don't spend going to an IETF meeting goes into my pocket that lets me spend it on my little girl... or pick your favorite way of spending money) The other thing that will be interesting is how do the IETF meeting expenses scale with participation... Do we spend 300,000K regardless of how many show up, or as the number of attendies goes up we spend more money and if so how much more Bill On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 11:17:31AM -0800, Ross Finlayson wrote: > At 10:22 AM 3/17/03, you wrote: > >I'm having quite a hard time seeing what the problem is here, but maybe I'm > >missing something... Based on Harald's analysis the projected annual > >shortfall is in the region of $350,000 per annum. Assuming ~5,000 attendees > >per annum, that equates to ~$70 per year per attendee. > > The trouble with this analysis is that the 5000 attendees each year are not > all different people. Many, if not most, people attend more than one IETF > meeting per year. > > A more accurate analysis would be: A shortfall of $350,000 per annum means > ~$120,000 per IETF meeting. So, if 1200 people attend each IETF meeting, > then that means $120 extra per person. (Or, if 2400 people attend each > IETF meeting, then that means $60 extra per person.) > > (Personally, I think that even the current $425 fee feels excessive, > especially in the current economic climate.) > > Ross. >