Instead of trying to fix the current model (meeting fees subsidize a publishing arm), it might make sense to consider having the publishing arm be self-funded. How do non-profit journals stay solvent? A mix of four income streams: -1- Subscriptions -2- Page charges for authors -3- Advertising -4- Value-added services I think most of us would agree that -1- isn't in our DNA. But some combination of -2-, -3-, and -4- might make WGs, the IESG, and the RFC editor self-funding. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- John Lazzaro -- Research Specialist -- CS Division -- EECS -- UC Berkeley lazzaro [at] cs [dot] berkeley [dot] edu www.cs.berkeley.edu/~lazzaro -------------------------------------------------------------------------