-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>>>> "Harald" == Harald Tveit Alvestrand <harald@alvestrand.no> writes: Harald> We usually expect higher costs outside North America - London was Harald> even more expensive than Yokohama. With the lack of sponsoring Harald> of terminal rooms, the difference is much less, but still Harald> significant. The reason for the varying prediction of Harald> per-attendee cost for 2004-2005 is that we are considering 2 Harald> non-US meetings in 2004 - but if they are definitely more I think that this is a good idea. Do you mean outside US, or outside North America? Is it the continent, or the country? As has been said many times in the past, returning to the same venue over and over again really isn't a problem to me. How a about Minneapolis, Montreal, and... well... I can't think of another "M"-city that we've been to already. Harald> would be damaging to my sanity, at least - don't know about Harald> others'.... we whould expect slightly lower per-meeting Harald> attendance, but many would indeed feel obligated to go to all Harald> four, so would pay more, I think. Whether they would get more Harald> things done is an open question. If going to four meetings provided more time for actual workshops, like was just had at ISC for DNSSEC - three days of intensive working together in a small group, then we'd get more done. I am of the opinion that the IETF needs far more organized time for "running code" before "rough consensus" is tested for. ] ON HUMILITY: to err is human. To moo, bovine. | firewalls [ ] Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works, Ottawa, ON |net architect[ ] mcr@sandelman.ottawa.on.ca http://www.sandelman.ottawa.on.ca/ |device driver[ ] panic("Just another Debian GNU/Linux using, kernel hacking, security guy"); [ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Finger me for keys iQCVAwUBPnTGAYqHRg3pndX9AQH8VwP/WWZAiK+AELccIIUuA1o/6JSddG98ZIXM +i8HkVsYmYtl9T4jRC0AvlQPXTKuiJXhP0C7yVjY62rNwGZjlIZa4CjByVz9D5Oo MqRGQ3FUKDQICSDS9d7ngiuN/tJUP8LZT6D5YyaQ0OVIXBzAi+axy9wzqZR7p+Dh khpTaTPf2P0= =QTOD -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----