On Sat, 01 Mar 2003 22:22:27 +0700, "Dr. Jeffrey Race" <jrace@attglobal.net> wrote: >On Sat, 15 Feb 2003 17:34:46 +0700, Gary Feldman <gfyho@YAHOO.COM> >wrote: [snip] ... >I want to encompass both webhosting firm and ISP. I agree it is >clumsy to introduce a new acronym. Please offer a suggestion here. Personally, I would use ISP as a catchall. Even though I recently used it in a more narrow sense on the spam-l list, I think it works well enough for "provider of any general internet services" when the context is clear. Alternatively, spell it out. Abbreviating a two word term is overly aggressive abbreviation, in my opinion. Bytes on that scale are cheap. >>The term "abuse" is already well-known to describe the >>entire class of problems; calling it "pollution" is at best an >annoying >>distraction. > >Here I have a particular psychological point in mind. I want to I understand that point, and I think it works well in that article you wrote and recently cited (I think in the port 25 thread). I'm less sure about putting it into a BCP/RFC document, at least at this point in time. Besides, "abuse" carries its own appropriate psychological baggage, especially where I believe we both are (Massachusetts), with regard to other current events that dominated the news media over the last year. I often feel the desire to want to convince the world to change terminology, so I respect your motives here, but I find that fighting such battles to be an inefficient use of energy - at least for me. Gary __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/