g'day, There was also a certain amount of piggybacking onto legitimate open FTP sites to deliver porn going on for a while that predated the web by years. Back in those more innocent days some folks actually left their incoming FTP directories open and apparently there arose an "on-demand" file delivery service, in which folks would post requests for specific files and the pusher would push it into a well-known open FTP directory for pickup, then delete it so people wouldn't know it was going on. It was being used for porn, and also for various other contraband stuff (cracking programs, etc). I found out about this when the campus Director of Computing called that he'd received a complaint from NSF about McGill's "porn site", which was located on one of our departmental machines (NSF was sharing the cost of the link to Canada, felt this violated the AUP and wanted it shut down NOW...) By the time I got to a terminal to check things out, all the bad stuff was gone, but yes we had a machine with an open directory, and when we started monitoring it, we saw lots of stuff coming and going until we closed it up. Off the top of my head, I'd say this would have been about 1989-89 or so. Others may have anecdotal evidence pushing it further back than that. - peterd Eliot Lear wrote: > > If you are looking for the first site that spoke HTTP, then I don't > know. On the other hand, as we know there has been a history of > development surrounding Internet porn. First of all, there were the > various newsgroups, and the various (dis)assembly programs. One of > these was AUB and it dates back to around 1992. Another of which was > FSP, the UDP-based file sharing protocol written to get around TCP port > filters. That would be in the 1993 time frame. While to the best of my > knowledge IRC had no attachment to sex for its development, it in > combination with various hacker sites played a role in sites being > hacked and becoming warez and porn sites. > > Eliot > > Harald Tveit Alvestrand wrote: > > Despite having lived through much recent history, I've forgotten a lot > > of it.... > > > > I just wonder: does anyone know/remember when the first Web porn site > > came online? > > > > Wondering whether it was before or after the first official release of > > Mosaic.... > > > > Harald > > > > > > -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Peter Deutsch pdeutsch@gydig.com Gydig Software "No, Harry - even in the wizarding world, hearing voices is not a good sign..." - Hermione Granger ------------------------------------------------------------------