Can we talk about something technical? All this he said, she said, my feelings are hurt etc. is just unprofessional (IMO). Everyone apologize to everyone else, and lets talk about some topics that represent what this discussion list is about, the IETF (Internet Engineering Task Force). This list is starting to look like your common every day IRC channel. We are better then this, can we not rise to the challenge? -Aaron -----Original Message----- From: owner-ietf@ietf.org [mailto:owner-ietf@ietf.org]On Behalf Of Jeff Williams Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 3:37 AM To: Franck Martin Cc: director@sopac.org; ietf@ietf.org; Jim Fleming Subject: Re: Please recant or appologize to Jim Flemming Frank and all, I believe you did list in the changed subject line of your response that the term SPAM in caps was used and put there by yourself. Hence you are again not being honest. So again I will ask you kindly to recant and to please apologize to Jim Flemming and everyone else that received that response of yours. If necessary I will repost your reply in question in it's entirety with full headers... In addition I have no interest in attempting to scare anyone. I copied the director of SOPAC.ORG in order to ensure that such tactics as you seem to employ are regrettable, disruptive, dishonest, and totally unnecessary, will be addressed and known by your management structure at the top as well as should not be a part or practice from within your organization, SOPAC. Franck Martin wrote: > I have never requested to be on this list, I have requested to have > > myself removed from the list and advised where this discussion could > be > taken to... > > I never made a claim that this was a SPAM, but as everybody is using a > > distribution list, I needed to specify it to everybody that I don't > want > to receive any more messages... > > It is well known that Jim Flemming is often forbiden to post on the > IETF > mailing list because he does not know when to STOP an argument. > > I think Jim Flemming should apologise to me for putting me on HIS > distribution list without my consent. Moreover YOU should apologise to > > me for involving my director and tryng some dirty scare tactics. It > won't work! > > But I know you won't... so end of discussion! > > Cheers. > Franck > > On Mon, 2003-01-06 at 20:41, Jeff Williams wrote: > > Frank, > > I believe your outburst and false claim to Jim referring to his > post > as SPAM is atrocious and uncalled for. Please recant or apologize > to > Jim. > > Thank you for your cooperation in advance. > > Kindest regards, > > -- > Jeffrey A. Williams > Spokesman for INEGroup - (Over 127k members/stakeholders strong!) > CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng. > Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC. > E-Mail jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com > Contact Number: 214-244-4827 or 972-244-3801 > Address: 5 East Kirkwood Blvd. Grapevine Texas 75208 > > > > Regards, -- Jeffrey A. Williams Spokesman for INEGroup - (Over 127k members/stakeholders strong!) CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng. Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC. E-Mail jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com Contact Number: 214-244-4827 or 972-244-3801 Address: 5 East Kirkwood Blvd. Grapevine Texas 75208