Grenvill Armitage, That is not the point and you know it. It is all about the nonsense attitude. Just ask yourself if it was all about making a polite suggestion then tell me why the word "might" was capitalized. Try reading what she wrote and putting emphasis on that word. Oh yeah I am going to continue to repost the nonsense as long as they are rude enough to keep sending it. The purpose of it is so that everyone knows how they are treating people and so that the other people that are being harassed by this incredibly rude person know that it is not just them and that this person is an incredible TROLL. What you are refering to as netiquette is an unspoken rule of USENET not a mailing list as far as I know, so I don't believe it applies here. In addition, I would like to add I thought this was a forum for professionals not kids. Before you start claiming that this person is not being a TROLL check out what the next response was. It isn't very professional or condusive to getting anything done in my opinion. Of course maybe the IETF isn't interested in getting anything done or talking about any real ideas. What do you think? I think that anyone that makes replies to messages in a public forum like THIS one which (unlike what usenet has turned into) is supposed to be about solving problems and getting things done, needs to be revealed to the group as a TROLL and a CHILD. I will personally be filtering the rest of the email from her since I don't have the time nor the desire to deal with the stupidity and I know there are plenty of other people here with things to say that are worth hearing. Hopefully you won't be the next person to go in my filter Grenville since I actually believe you were trying to do something here even if it was misguided. Bye bye Daniel. Oh, don't bother replying to my message with the obligatory "well fine I will ignore you to" because I won't see it. P.S. If you doubt the my claim that it was the entire message either time I can always post them as file attachments for the whole group to see. Done with this nonsense now, Doug Dougxx2@carolina.rr.com 704-721-0212 what follows is the childish reply I got from Daniel Senie ------------------------------------ At 09:40 PM 1/5/2003 >>Well, I am sorry Mrs. Senie, > >Mrs.? heh. > >> that you feel the need to flame me for throwing >>out a few informal ideas in an informal open forum. Next time I will be sure >>to consult my old english professor on the proper format. >> >>Jeesh Couldn't come up with one descent comment could ya? >> >You perhaps mean "decent"? The word you used refers to decreasing altitude. >> >> >>What's next spelling errors and typos >> >Absolutely. Should you wish to communicate your ideas to others, it'd >REALLY help if you learned to communicate effectively. ------------------------------------------------- end of childish rant from Daniel Senie Oh and for your information Daniel I think anyone with a reading level over fourth grade could understand what I said and I think everyone that did bother to read it knows it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "grenville armitage" <garmitage@swin.edu.au> To: "Doug" <Dougxx2@carolina.rr.com> Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 10:24 PM Subject: Re: Fw: namedroppers, continued (flamed in less than an hour. figures) > > Doug wrote: > > > > I am wondering, is Daniel Senie normally rude to people she doesn't know or > > is she just having a bad day? > > My reading of what you claim is the entirety of Senie's email to you > is that you received a perfectly valid and succint suggestion. You seem > to be overreacting, and committing a greater netiquette sin of re-posting > someone's private email to you. > > What exactly are you upset about? > > cheers, > gja > -- > Grenville Armitage > http://caia.swin.edu.au