Bill, Did the message you received come from ISOC or from one of ISOC's California Chapters? I suspect the latter and I suspect the meeting is just a discussion among people of a common problem. Regardless, ISOC would not "go around" the IETF. Jim Galvin ISOC VP Chapters On Tue, 24 Dec 2002, Bill Cunningham wrote: Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 02:06:43 -0500 From: Bill Cunningham <billc44@citynet.net> To: ietf@ietf.org Subject: ISOC meeting I received a mailing yesterday that was an invitation to Internet Society members to the meeting that will be coming up in California. One thing on the agenda is going to be discussions concerning spam and mail protocol encapsulations to thwart it. Is this an idea I haven't heard anything that has come from the IETF? Or is ISOC going to another source other than IETF through the IAB ?