To Mr. Bernstein and the others involved in this discussion - Whether or not Mr. Bernstein is right, the clear consensus on this list is that the members of this list aren't going to be changing anything. You may be right, but since you clearly are not getting any support here please either take up this grievance somewhere where you can get some support or let it go. It is no longer productive to continue a debate between one person and the rest of the list. At least, it is clearly less productive than other things we could be discussing. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Ray B. Morris support@webmastersguide.com http://www.WebmastersGuide.com