Ok... I have to know... Randy, Can you please put bill@strahm.net on the approved posters list for namedroppers ? Isn't it as simple as that ? Bill -----Original Message----- From: owner-ietf@IETF.ORG [mailto:owner-ietf@IETF.ORG] On Behalf Of Keith Moore Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2002 10:18 AM To: Erik Nordmark Cc: ietf@IETF.ORG Subject: Re: namedroppers mismanagement, continued > If folks need to post all the time from a different > address than their subscription address *they* should take the step to > get that posting address added to the approved posters list. that might be fine, except - in the current situation, even postings from occasional posters are being blocked. and when postings are blocked, the message is terse and cryptic (even insulting) and contains no clue about how to workaround the problem - getting on the "approved posters" list is not well documented or understood. for some list software this is a manual operation requiring the list admin to edit a file; on others it is under control of the subscriber but he/she has to "subscribe" the alternate address using some obscure option like /NOMAIL. I've run several IETF lists myself and I know how much of a pain it is to filter out spam. Yes, the process is error prone. Yes it's a pain to keep approving posts from the same person (though it's easy to fix that problem, and no I don't think adding that person to an approved posters lists is assuming too much). And yet I still don't think that namedroppers is being managed appropriately. Can we please fix this problem which has gone on for several years and stop pretending that this behavior is acceptable? Keith