datagram is confuse.. well best i understand is the whole stack layers all rolled into one logical grouping. 9/27/02 3:49:32 PM, "Bill Cunningham" <billcu@CITYNET.NET> wrote: >Vint, > Some of us at IETF are thinking about a draft to clear up some >terminology about the different layers of TCP/IP. >Whether it be packet, datagram, segement (more clearly defined) or whatever >the case. Do you have any opinions on this? > >