on 8/13/2002 9:20 PM Christian Huitema wrote: > The other approach is technical. As Bob Braden says, this is what the > IETF does, so that what we should look at. But the canonical problem is social, not technical. The symptoms we all know about and are eager to treat (me included) aren't the real problem. This doesn't mean that we shouldn't be exploring technical solutions to some of the symptomatic problems (forgery sucks regardless of whether its spam, worms, outright fraud, or anything else). What it means is that the problem won't go away until the root social problem is fixed. BTW, the reason the WA state law is ineffective is because it isn't widely enforced. National laws would have much more effect. A few ambulance chasers filing class-action lawsuits that spanned all jurisdictions would stop it faster than any imaginable technical solution. -- Eric A. Hall http://www.ehsco.com/ Internet Core Protocols http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/coreprot/