----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Crocker" <dhc@dcrocker.net> > > On the plus side, the nature of the model is called divide and conquor. To > make a complex problem tractable, solve as little of it as is practical, > using an many existing component solutions as can be found. > > My own belief is that the single biggest cause of failed standards efforts > is failure to constrain the initial solution effort, leading to confusion > and delay. > > Absent a concrete specification and community support for it, all you are > suggesting it that we wait more years in the hope of developing something > that has so far proved extremely elusive. > > That's not a very good plan for getting anything useful and getting it in a > timely manner. > Your above defense of premature and lacking-of-consensus IDN standards won't work because IDNA proposes universal and irreversible infrastructural changes on DNS by redefining the subspace ([a-z][a-z]--*) of ASCII domain namespace to have new i18n meanings which have been proved to be problematic. No application which supports ASCII hostnames can avoid this redefinition in the higer/later/human interpretation level. IDN standards are not like the message protocol "quoted-printable" which use is optional and we have many other alternatives like "base64". We have no alternative other than to-be-redefined DNS which is unique. You should not extend your logic into IDN standards. Finding any analogy between IDN standards efforts and those for tiny application protocols will be proved to be false. We have only single slot for new IDN standard. Incremental or "divide and conquor"-style changes or revisions on IDNA standards were already ruled out in IDNA documents themselves. if ever issued and deployed, DNS standards cannot be upgraded because they form crucial internet identifier system which should be stable. DNS is no more the sole property of US DoC/DoD/IETF/IANA, but rather internationallly shared resource. I hope you Dave share with us serious concerns about how to secure DNS from irreversible jeopardizations by commercial driving forces of IDN. "Be liberal in what you accept, Be conservative in what you *ISSUE* ". Soobok Lee > d/ > > > ---------- > Dave Crocker <mailto:dave@tribalwise.com> > TribalWise, Inc. <http://www.tribalwise.com> > tel +1.408.246.8253; fax +1.408.850.1850 >