On Fri, 31 May 2002 16:09:47 +0700, Robert Elz said: > My suggestion to fix this problem is quite simple > > No more last calls before moving protocols to historic, > except where they're full standards already. > > For everything else, going to historic should be automatic. That is, > the only way to avoid any spec being made historic automatically, is > for it to become a full standard. OK.. I'll bite - at what point should a not-yet-full standard expire to historic? And the flip side - we've moved an amazingly SMALL number of documents to Full Standard, and only when we *think* we *fully* understand things. Even then, things have been known to get "out of sync" with reality: 1119 Network Time Protocol (version 2) specification and implementation. D.L. Mills. Sep-01-1989. (Format: TXT=143, PS=518020, PDF=187940 bytes) (Obsoletes RFC0958, RFC1059) (Obsoleted by RFC1305) (Also STD0012) (Status: STANDARD) 1305 Network Time Protocol (Version 3) Specification, Implementation. David L. Mills. March 1992. (Format: TXT=307085, PDF=442493 bytes) (Obsoletes RFC0958, RFC1059, RFC1119) (Status: DRAFT STANDARD) One of the *GOOD* things about protocols living at DS is that you can convince vendors to start supporting the *new* DS rather than the *old* one. I've had *enough* fun with one vendor who insisted on sticking with RFC2133 rather than updating to RFC2553 for IPv6 socket API, even though both are only Informational. -- Valdis Kletnieks Computer Systems Senior Engineer Virginia Tech
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