And you miss the point completely too. IETF move forward with draft. Repeatively say "i want utf-8, i want it now" after the first time are just noise. Write your draft. It is make sense, then support will come. -James Seng > I think you missed the point completely. The point, as Keld have mentioned > is that there are people, who believes that it is beneficial to have UTF8 > option, I being one of them and Keld being one of them, and it is a fact > that cannot be ignored and should not be ignored. From my interpretation of > your previous words, you also believe that it is beneficial to go beyond > ASCII. That, is my point and please dont try to confuse the message with > the means! Human language is not machine language and you have to > understand the context before you can get the message. If you cant > understand this simple depth and intricacy of human interaction and > communication, I cant help you. > > The exercise is to establish a meaningful support before I waste my time > working on a draft if no one wants to talk about it. > I have a draft of a draft inplace for UDNA, and I am updating it as we > continue to discuss some of the elements of it on the list. I think it > makes more sense this way, than to throw something in here fresh. Also I > think it would be beneficial to have a draft on IDNX (IDN Transition). So > please stop distrupting the discussion of a good discussion here. > > Edmon > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "James Seng" <jseng@pobox.org.sg> > To: "Edmon Chung" <edmon@neteka.com>; "Keld Jørn Simonsen" <keld@dkuug.dk> > Cc: <ietf@ietf.org>; "John Stracke" <jstracke@incentivesystems.com>; > <idn@ops.ietf.org>; <ietf-smtp@IMC.ORG>; <owner-ietf@ietf.org> > Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 1:25 PM > Subject: Re: [idn] Re: 7 bits forever! > > > > > Whole heartedly agree. This time we have yourself and the Asian > community > > > standing up saying we want IDN(UTF8), hopefully, this is unquestioned as > > > well. > > > > I am aware that some chinese members in this group have stood up to ask > for > > TC/SC in IDN. I am also aware that Lee have asked for reordering. > > > > But I am not aware of any "Asian community standing up saying we want > > IDN(UTF8)". I honestly hope I havent missed anything important. > > > > Or is this just another fragment of your imagation? > > > > It is frustrating to hear you repeating "I want UTF-8, I want UTF-8 now!" > > again and again. Lets just say "yes, we hear you say that and lets move > on". > > > > By moving on, I mean you write a draft to cover: > > a) what is the advantage of IDN(UTF8) over the existing IDNA > > b) how IDN(UTF8) is going to work > > c) how you intend to get there > > > > -James Seng > > > > > > >