At 11:05 AM 3/30/02 -0800, Peter Deutsch wrote: >Your mileage may vary, etc but if people are taking the IETF work and >not growing it in the IETF, I personally conclude that the IETF is >failing to provide a suitable home for new ideas. It seems to me that being "a suitable home for new ideas" and being a place where the success of a protocol is evaluated on the basis of deployment are mutually incompatible. Also, a well-designed protocol may later turn out to have unanticipated value. Melinda