So is teardown on a non-IETF day scheduled for 4am or 5am? No, really: How long can the itnerant ex-attendee sit in the lounge and be on line? Or, how long at the Britpub with the feed? -George PS I have been dying to ask: does anybody measure the size of the suspected pool of locals who get slashdotted into driving 40ks for free connectivity? not that you'd want to stop this mind, but I do wonder if some of the bodies are actually *only* here for the 802.11