> From: Peter Deutsch <pdeutsch@earthlink.net> > Who was the Roman Senator who ended every speech with "Carthage must be > destroyed"? You might take solace from the fact that eventually Carthage > was destroyed, but the power struggles and cost of that conflict hurt > Rome hugely in the process. Better to light a candle than to curse the > darkness, and all... I thought it was agreed among histgorians that the destruction of Carthage was not only worth the cost but probably necessary for the development of the Roman Empire. > ... > I might ask why you aren't more actively seeking ways to accomodate > things, rather than hoping that you're going to turn back the NAT tide > this late in the day. The water's gone beyond your ankles and is lapping > your ears on this one. It's time to accept that you lost a technical > argument and move on... I've not noticed any technical arguments any that have been lost in the real world or anywhere else. I think Keith goes a little overboard in his efforts arguments, but when talking about NAT itself, let's please keep to the facts. One fact is that NAT boxes are widely and grossly misrepresented by vendors and trade rag consultants. Vernon Schryver vjs@rhyolite.com