Given that a key technology in the v4 to v6 transition appears to be tunneling, perhaps the ietf should consider the merits of ALL Internet traffic between peers being tunneled in IP. That way users can get IP addresses from ISPs for their tunnels, and they could get IP addresses from their name space providers (e.g. the registries or others). (ipae wins!) Clear delineation of roles and responsibilities is usually a good starting point. This is made challenging in a world where public and private networks(e.g. corporate and/or home networks) co-exist and interconnect. Tunneling could be the winning technology ticket for solving some of the thorny problems. ("when all else fails, add a level of indirection"). Cheers, peter -----Original Message----- From: Michael Richardson [mailto:mcr@sandelman.ottawa.on.ca] Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 3:54 PM To: ietf@ietf.org Subject: Re: Dynamic DNS at the 53rd IETF -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>>>> "Keith" == Keith Moore <moore@cs.utk.edu> writes: >> we are hoping that this exercise will do the same for dynamic dns >> update with dhcp. Keith> I guess my question is how valuable this is. As far as I can tell, Keith> stable DNS names are of limited utility unless the underlying IP Keith> address(es) are also stable. But the best way to find out is to Keith> try it, and I'm glad to have the opportunity to do so. Again, we've had this discussion again and again - definitions of stable vary from anything less than a month is useless, to 20 minutes is enough. They key thing for me, if we can convince broadband operators that they want to do this is that ordinary users will have control over their reverse maps. While PTR records might not be that sexy, KEY and KX records are! ] ON HUMILITY: to err is human. To moo, bovine. | firewalls [ ] Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works, Ottawa, ON |net architect[ ] mcr@sandelman.ottawa.on.ca http://www.sandelman.ottawa.on.ca/ |device driver[ ] panic("Just another NetBSD/notebook using, kernel hacking, security guy"); [ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: latin1 Comment: Finger me for keys iQCVAwUBPH1xfIqHRg3pndX9AQFwegP/QMSmJ+MNL7zwV4bRPrrXHS6A0nlpjURI AihzKhIgdzhag2tb0Moz972yN19GGAKUzR6HdIE10c49jPdVvxXwF3+BAXfZTjT2 K86EircZYDKV4eA/Ks1By/byMgONne/MPELiRIvDL9lhyiPSJahTaEHJ1BhaXNnm fCgYVq4/ujo= =qvxF -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----