Hi Bryan, That sounds like a very interesting and useful application for DCCP. Unfortunately, I'm not in Stockholm, but hopefully Pasi can attend the BoF. I'll watch the tae mailing list for a chance to chime in. Tom P. > -----Original Message----- > From: Bryan Ford [mailto:baford@xxxxxxxxxxx] > Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 1:32 PM > To: Pasi Sarolahti; Phelan, Tom > Cc: dccp@xxxxxxxx > Subject: DCCP > > Hi Pasi, Tom, [and other interested DCCP folks,] > > In response to your "DCCP - What now?" presentation in tsvarea today, > I'd like to suggest that we meet and talk further about how DCCP might > fit as a "Flow Layer" in the Internet architecture, atop which other > "Semantic Layer" transports would run, as we proposed in our talk. It > seems like DCCP's current main weakness is that it's just not > essential enough for many common applications - but in my view it > _should_ be essential as a component underlying most or _all_ > congestion-controlled transports in a next-generation Internet > architecture, even if applications might then rarely use DCCP directly > (although they presumably still could). > > For you and any others interested in further discussing broader issues > of transport architecture evolution such as these: > > (1) There's an IETF mailing list we started a while ago for these > types of discussions: > > "Transport Architecture Evolution" > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tae > > (2) Some of us are getting together for an unofficial "bar-BOF" > tomorrow (Tuesday) lunchtime, at 11:30, directly in front of the > conference center (along the street), to find a place and discuss > architecture issues over lunch. Likely topics include layering model > stuff, negotiation, naming/address-neutrality in the transport layer, > etc. - it's open-ended at this point, but we'd at least like to > identify some of the most promising/urgent next steps. Since lunch > period is short, we'll leave promptly no later than 11:40, so be on > time. :) > > Thanks, > Bryan