RE: RTP over DCCP - Probing..

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Dear Colin,
 Thanks for your reply. I am happy with this change. 

Are others happy with this change or any more suggestions regarding
keep-alives?

Arjuna

-----Original Message-----
From: Colin Perkins [mailto:csp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: 21 March 2007 13:20
To: Arjuna Sathiaseelan
Cc: 'DCCP mailing list'
Subject: Re:  RTP over DCCP - Probing..

Arjuna,

On 20 Mar 2007, at 19:27, Arjuna Sathiaseelan wrote:
> Dear Colin,  As discussed during the meeting, I would like to  
> remind you that the following paragraph from Section 4.1 (http:// 
> www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-dccp-rtp-04.txt) requires a  
> sentence or two stating that the probing mechanism described is  
> under the assumption that the underlying DCCP mechanism does not do  
> any probing. If the underlying CCID does probing (for eg Faster  
> Restart), then please state what the sender should do or could  
> do.   "A DCCP connection is opened when an end system joins an RTP  
> session,   and it remains open for the duration of the session.  To  
> ensure NAT   bindings are kept open, an end system SHOULD send a  
> zero length DCCP-   Data packet once every 15 seconds during  
> periods when it has no other   data to send.  This removes the need  
> for RTP no-op packets [18], and
>       similar application level keep-alives, when using RTP over  
> DCCP ".
Would a change similar to the following suffice?

-->cvs diff -c rtp-over-dccp.xml
Index: rtp-over-dccp.xml
===================================================================
RCS file: /Users/csp/CVS/rtp-over-dccp/rtp-over-dccp.xml,v
retrieving revision 1.82
diff -c -r1.82 rtp-over-dccp.xml
*** rtp-over-dccp.xml   4 Mar 2007 18:50:40 -0000       1.82
--- rtp-over-dccp.xml   21 Mar 2007 13:17:18 -0000
***************
*** 153,159 ****
       packet once every 15 seconds during periods when it has no  
other data to
       send. This removes the need for <xref target="I-D.wing-avt-rtp- 
noop">
       RTP no-op packets</xref>, and similar application level keep- 
alives,
!     when using RTP over DCCP. </t>

   <t> RTP data packets MUST obey the dictates of DCCP congestion  
control.
       In some cases, the congestion control will require a sender to  
send
--- 153,161 ----
       packet once every 15 seconds during periods when it has no  
other data to
       send. This removes the need for <xref target="I-D.wing-avt-rtp- 
noop">
       RTP no-op packets</xref>, and similar application level keep- 
alives,
!     when using RTP over DCCP.  This application level keepalive  
does not
!     need to be sent if it is known that the DCCP CCID in use  
provides a
!     transport level keepalive. </t>

   <t> RTP data packets MUST obey the dictates of DCCP congestion  
control.
       In some cases, the congestion control will require a sender to  
send

-- 
Colin Perkins
http://csperkins.org/






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