The IESG has no problem with the publication of 'Procedures for Rights Handling in the RFC Independent Stream' <draft-braden-independent-submission-01.txt> as an Informational RFC. The IESG would also like the IRSG or RFC-Editor to review the comments in the datatracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/pidtracker.cgi?command=view_id&dTag=19052&rfc_flag=0) related to this document and determine whether or not they merit incorporation into the document. Comments may exist in both the ballot and the comment log. The IESG contact person is Russ Housley. A URL of this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-braden-independent-submission-01.txt The process for such documents is described at http://www.rfc-editor.org/indsubs.html. Thank you, The IESG Secretary Technical Summary This document specifies the procedures by which authors of RFC Independent Stream documents grant the community "incoming" rights for copying and using the text. It also specifies the "outgoing" rights the community grants to readers and users of those documents, and it requests that the IETF Trust manage the outgoing rights to affect this result. Working Group Summary This document is not the product of any IETF WG. Protocol Quality The document was reviewed by Russ Housley for the IESG. RFC Editor Note The IESG has not found any conflict between this document and IETF work. However, the IESG has two concerns. 1) This paragraph has a problem: In summary, submissions in the Independent Stream use the same submission procedures and mechanisms that are defined in RFC 5378, and hence require the same "incoming rights" as IETF-stream documents. This document explicitly defines the "outgoing rights" that are granted to readers and users of Independent Stream documents, and it requests the IETF Trust to manage the rights in accordance with this definition. This document does not explicitly define the "outgoing rights". If the IETF Trust is to manage the IPR, then this document is providing advice to the Trustees of the IETF Trust on Rights to Be Granted in Independent Submission Stream Documents. 2) The IESG has concerns about this paragraph: Note also that this unlimited derivative works policy applies to all parts of an Independent Stream document, including any code. Therefore, no separate licensing procedure is required for extracting and adapting code that is contained in an Independent Stream document submitted under the (preferred) unlimited derivative works terms. On the other hand, code may not be extracted and adapted from Independent Stream documents submitted under the no derivative works terms. So far, the IETF Trust has used the BSD license for all code. One important aspect of this license is the "as is" warranty. The IESG requests that the RFC Editor confer with the IAB on the decision to use an unlimited derivative works policy without any warranty clause. IESG Note The IESG has determined that no IESG note is needed for this document. _______________________________________________ IETF-Announce@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-announce